P.C.
09-26-2005, 01:57 AM
Hi
I hope some of you old timers can share a bit of advise ;
Before ver. 12 it was easy to find the vars I often temp. make , to
yield various values while drawing various entities. Say I made a house
12 meter high and wanted this to be able to do various calculations , I
the set the var. "Hight" to 12 case meters are my drawing unit , and
having that temp. stored it is then easy in Lisp to "ansver" commands
---- say for some reson I need to draw something with a measure that
reflect the "hight" , I can allway's ansver with a value that can be
calculated from the vars I stored or take a measure in the drawing and
at the same time have that measure stored as temp. var. --- I do this
all the time, I can for instance make the house 2.3 times the hight ,
by simple ansvering in Lisp ; (* hight 2.3) and this way I store the
"hight" in a smarter way concerning calculations and ansvering command
prompt, by in Lisp, simply saying 2.3 times the hight.
Now when you store vars that way you end up with a load of different
vars. --- say I want to do the calculaions on vars. like hight
hight-window1 free-space aso. then back before ver. 12 you just typed
"Atomslist" and you got a neat list of all vars. set in that session.
Later Atomslist was replaced with the silli "Atomsfamily" that poured
out a load of various vars. value , information that was more or less
useless if you was only looking for the vars. you setq'ed in this
particular session. ------ now these small tricks was there so you
didn't needed a piece of paper to write down instead of having it all
in the drawing, untill that information got lost closing the drawing,
but at that time you anyway needed to confirm the entities and get rid
of the loose and temp stuff ----- now my problem is that I often
"ansver" a command with some value I measure in the drawing, and at the
same time that I measure something to ansver the command I save the
value so it is easy found later, If I need it again ,so when I need the
"hight" again ,then I know that as I ansvered a call with (setq
hight(getdist)) ; everyone who know AutoCAD and Lisp will know , that
doing it like that, I both ansver with a distance messured in the
drawing ,and at the same instance save that value of "hight".
But since Atomslist became Atoms-family it is difficult to recall all
values that you need to write down before you save and close the
drawing while these temp. values are lost then ------ so what I would
like to ask is, if there are a smarter way to be able to "remember" the
various values , stored as vars like "hight" or hight-window1" in a way
that work as the old "Atomslist" that didn't yield a bunch of vars, but
a load where your own homemade values and vars. was easy to recall. As
I said I do it all the time , I simply find it easy to set a lot of
temp. vars. and then make the ansvers by calculations on these but ;
what often happen is that I need to find new names for some distance or
value I pick in the drawing, and sometimes I have to realise that I got
a bit rusty, as it can be difficult to recall all the names for values
stored ; there Atomsfamily was perfect as that would yield all the
names and values for vars. something that became difficult with
Atoms-family.
Now this is my question ; are there a way or do I realy need to write
that application myself to , to get these values case I forgot the
exact names for the values I need to ansver with , is it possible now,
to only get the values you setq'd in the particular session are there a
way to get a list of var. names that work smarter than Atoms-family
????
I hope some of you old timers can share a bit of advise ;
Before ver. 12 it was easy to find the vars I often temp. make , to
yield various values while drawing various entities. Say I made a house
12 meter high and wanted this to be able to do various calculations , I
the set the var. "Hight" to 12 case meters are my drawing unit , and
having that temp. stored it is then easy in Lisp to "ansver" commands
---- say for some reson I need to draw something with a measure that
reflect the "hight" , I can allway's ansver with a value that can be
calculated from the vars I stored or take a measure in the drawing and
at the same time have that measure stored as temp. var. --- I do this
all the time, I can for instance make the house 2.3 times the hight ,
by simple ansvering in Lisp ; (* hight 2.3) and this way I store the
"hight" in a smarter way concerning calculations and ansvering command
prompt, by in Lisp, simply saying 2.3 times the hight.
Now when you store vars that way you end up with a load of different
vars. --- say I want to do the calculaions on vars. like hight
hight-window1 free-space aso. then back before ver. 12 you just typed
"Atomslist" and you got a neat list of all vars. set in that session.
Later Atomslist was replaced with the silli "Atomsfamily" that poured
out a load of various vars. value , information that was more or less
useless if you was only looking for the vars. you setq'ed in this
particular session. ------ now these small tricks was there so you
didn't needed a piece of paper to write down instead of having it all
in the drawing, untill that information got lost closing the drawing,
but at that time you anyway needed to confirm the entities and get rid
of the loose and temp stuff ----- now my problem is that I often
"ansver" a command with some value I measure in the drawing, and at the
same time that I measure something to ansver the command I save the
value so it is easy found later, If I need it again ,so when I need the
"hight" again ,then I know that as I ansvered a call with (setq
hight(getdist)) ; everyone who know AutoCAD and Lisp will know , that
doing it like that, I both ansver with a distance messured in the
drawing ,and at the same instance save that value of "hight".
But since Atomslist became Atoms-family it is difficult to recall all
values that you need to write down before you save and close the
drawing while these temp. values are lost then ------ so what I would
like to ask is, if there are a smarter way to be able to "remember" the
various values , stored as vars like "hight" or hight-window1" in a way
that work as the old "Atomslist" that didn't yield a bunch of vars, but
a load where your own homemade values and vars. was easy to recall. As
I said I do it all the time , I simply find it easy to set a lot of
temp. vars. and then make the ansvers by calculations on these but ;
what often happen is that I need to find new names for some distance or
value I pick in the drawing, and sometimes I have to realise that I got
a bit rusty, as it can be difficult to recall all the names for values
stored ; there Atomsfamily was perfect as that would yield all the
names and values for vars. something that became difficult with
Atoms-family.
Now this is my question ; are there a way or do I realy need to write
that application myself to , to get these values case I forgot the
exact names for the values I need to ansver with , is it possible now,
to only get the values you setq'd in the particular session are there a
way to get a list of var. names that work smarter than Atoms-family
????