Help for crash.

[FredBear]

Sorry if this same issue has been brought up before, but I have looked
everywhere to no avail. We have a few drawings here that will crash AutoCAD
2002 when we go into the Layer Properties Window, and right click on any of
the layers (the right click itself seems to be the cause). Sometimes it
crashes straight to the desktop, and sometimes it leaves a fatal error
message, and others still it leaves an illegal operation message. We have
tried to recover, purge and audit the files, and everything looks fine.
Every one of our computers has this same problem with these same files, with
sometimes different messages, but with AutoCAD always crashing (sometimes
windows getting stuck as well). We are all running Windows 98 SE with all
the patches for our hardware and software (even AutoCAD 2002 with the latest
SP). It is not a hardware problem because it happens on several different
computers, (from a P3 700Mhz, to a P4 1.8Ghz), all running Windows 98SE.
Also I thought it might be a conflict with Norton, so I uninstalled that and
installed AVG Anti-Virus (cannot run with NO anti-virus software) and still
crashes. I am at my wits end to solve this problem, and the only
work-around, rather than a select all layers option, we have to go through
and select layers by hand...this is unacceptable. Any help from you guys
out there would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

--
Night_Seer

[Jim Claypool]

Try inserting the bad drawing into a new one.
Use an * before the drawing name to insert it exploded.

"Night_Seer" <ecamacho4 at hotmail dot com> wrote in message
news:7dGdnbeGuNKcbZyiXTWJig@speakeasy.net... Sorry if this same issue has been brought up before, but I have looked everywhere to no avail. We have a few drawings here that will crash
AutoCAD 2002 when we go into the Layer Properties Window, and right click on any
of the layers (the right click itself seems to be the cause). Sometimes it crashes straight to the desktop, and sometimes it leaves a fatal error message, and others still it leaves an illegal operation message. We have tried to recover, purge and audit the files, and everything looks fine. Every one of our computers has this same problem with these same files,
with sometimes different messages, but with AutoCAD always crashing (sometimes windows getting stuck as well). We are all running Windows 98 SE with all the patches for our hardware and software (even AutoCAD 2002 with the
latest SP). It is not a hardware problem because it happens on several different computers, (from a P3 700Mhz, to a P4 1.8Ghz), all running Windows 98SE. Also I thought it might be a conflict with Norton, so I uninstalled that
and installed AVG Anti-Virus (cannot run with NO anti-virus software) and
still crashes. I am at my wits end to solve this problem, and the only work-around, rather than a select all layers option, we have to go through and select layers by hand...this is unacceptable. Any help from you guys out there would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. -- Night_Seer

[FredBear]

We have tried that as well, again with the same results. Thanks anyways for
the suggestion.

--
Night_Seer
"Jim Claypool" <jclaypool@kc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:0_mMa.176841$jT4.3139289@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com... Try inserting the bad drawing into a new one. Use an * before the drawing name to insert it exploded. "Night_Seer" <ecamacho4 at hotmail dot com> wrote in message news:7dGdnbeGuNKcbZyiXTWJig@speakeasy.net... Sorry if this same issue has been brought up before, but I have
looked everywhere to no avail. We have a few drawings here that will crash AutoCAD 2002 when we go into the Layer Properties Window, and right click on any of the layers (the right click itself seems to be the cause). Sometimes it crashes straight to the desktop, and sometimes it leaves a fatal error message, and others still it leaves an illegal operation message. We
have tried to recover, purge and audit the files, and everything looks fine. Every one of our computers has this same problem with these same files, with sometimes different messages, but with AutoCAD always crashing
(sometimes windows getting stuck as well). We are all running Windows 98 SE with
all the patches for our hardware and software (even AutoCAD 2002 with the latest SP). It is not a hardware problem because it happens on several
different computers, (from a P3 700Mhz, to a P4 1.8Ghz), all running Windows 98SE. Also I thought it might be a conflict with Norton, so I uninstalled that and installed AVG Anti-Virus (cannot run with NO anti-virus software) and still crashes. I am at my wits end to solve this problem, and the only work-around, rather than a select all layers option, we have to go
through and select layers by hand...this is unacceptable. Any help from you
guys out there would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. -- Night_Seer

[baz]

Hi.
Two things you could try.

1. Wblock the whole drawing and open the wblock as a drawing, this often
gets rid of any odd layers and things, works like a big Purge (make sure you
don't have any frozen layers, these would be lost in the wblock).

2. Open the drawing in Intellycad and save as AutoCAD drawing, Intellycad
can open drawings AutoCAD has problems with.

Best Regards
Baz

"Night_Seer" <ecamacho4 at hotmail dot com> wrote in message
news:7dGdnbeGuNKcbZyiXTWJig@speakeasy.net... Sorry if this same issue has been brought up before, but I have looked everywhere to no avail. We have a few drawings here that will crash
AutoCAD 2002 when we go into the Layer Properties Window, and right click on any
of the layers (the right click itself seems to be the cause). Sometimes it crashes straight to the desktop, and sometimes it leaves a fatal error message, and others still it leaves an illegal operation message. We have tried to recover, purge and audit the files, and everything looks fine. Every one of our computers has this same problem with these same files,
with sometimes different messages, but with AutoCAD always crashing (sometimes windows getting stuck as well). We are all running Windows 98 SE with all the patches for our hardware and software (even AutoCAD 2002 with the
latest SP). It is not a hardware problem because it happens on several different computers, (from a P3 700Mhz, to a P4 1.8Ghz), all running Windows 98SE. Also I thought it might be a conflict with Norton, so I uninstalled that
and installed AVG Anti-Virus (cannot run with NO anti-virus software) and
still crashes. I am at my wits end to solve this problem, and the only work-around, rather than a select all layers option, we have to go through and select layers by hand...this is unacceptable. Any help from you guys out there would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. -- Night_Seer

[Guest]

On Tue, 1 Jul 2003 13:33:06 -0700, "Night_Seer" <ecamacho4 at hotmail
dot com> wrote:
Sorry if this same issue has been brought up before, but I have lookedeverywhere to no avail. We have a few drawings here that will crash AutoCAD2002 when we go into the Layer Properties Window, and right click on any ofthe layers (the right click itself seems to be the cause). Sometimes itcrashes straight to the desktop, and sometimes it leaves a fatal errormessage, and others still it leaves an illegal operation message. We havetried to recover, purge and audit the files, and everything looks fine.Every one of our computers has this same problem with these same files, withsometimes different messages, but with AutoCAD always crashing (sometimeswindows getting stuck as well). We are all running Windows 98 SE with allthe patches for our hardware and software (even AutoCAD 2002 with the latestSP). It is not a hardware problem because it happens on several differentcomputers, (from a P3 700Mhz, to a P4 1.8Ghz), all running Windows 98SE.Also I thought it might be a conflict with Norton, so I uninstalled that andinstalled AVG Anti-Virus (cannot run with NO anti-virus software) and stillcrashes. I am at my wits end to solve this problem, and the onlywork-around, rather than a select all layers option, we have to go throughand select layers by hand...this is unacceptable. Any help from you guysout there would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.--Night_Seer

I'd definitely consider obtaining one copy of Win2000Pro and see if it
stops the problems on one machine. Then go from there.

John B

johnbogie btinternet.com
Put the "at" in the gap.

[Guest]

On Wed, 2 Jul 2003 13:19:51 -0700, "Night_Seer" <ecamacho4 at hotmail
dot com> wrote:
Is Win2000 compatible with windows NT server? We have Small Business server4.0 here.

I believe so but I wouldn't take my word for it.

I'm sure someone else here can give a definitive answer.

John B

johnbogie btinternet.com
Put the "at" in the gap.