Running Autocad in Linux?

[Perfect Reign]

I am on a new project where I'll be implementing Archibus/FM site wide. Of
course, we are using Autocad with this. We currently have 2002 but will be
upgrading to 2005 ASAP.

At work, I use Windows XP, which is okay for this system. At home, however,
I use SuSE Linux 9.2. I have tried installing both 2002 and 2004 in my
Linux system but with no luck. I'm using Crossover Office to obtain
Windows compatibility.

Without downgrading to Windows XP, is there any way to get Autocad to work
within Windows?


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www.perfectreign.com

a palm tree nodded at me last night
he said, hey you look so pale

[TigBits]

.. Without downgrading to Windows XP, is there any way to get Autocad to work within Windows?
My AutoCad works fine within Windows. :-)
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TigBits
(o)Y(0)

[Perfect Reign]

On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 20:03:01 GMT, someone posing as TigBits chisled in the
wall:
. Without downgrading to Windows XP, is there any way to get Autocad to work within Windows? My AutoCad works fine within Windows. :-)

Sorry my bad - within Windows emulation.

Even better - when are they going to come out with a Linux version? Is
there any word on that? I'd love to dump my emulation programs altogether.


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www.perfectreign.com
....a palm tree nodded at me last night
he said, hey you look so pale...

[Modat22]

My AutoCad works fine within Windows. :-)Sorry my bad - within Windows emulation.Even better - when are they going to come out with a Linux version? Isthere any word on that? I'd love to dump my emulation programs altogether.


I'd like to know how to do this as well.

[CW]

Chances are, there never will be a Linux version. Same can be said about
most mainstream software. There isn't the user base to support it.

"Perfect Reign" <theperfectreign@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:smcdw2ak46ey$.1ml4wrnuudpay$.dlg@40tude.net... Even better - when are they going to come out with a Linux version? Is there any word on that? I'd love to dump my emulation programs
altogether.

[Bob Alexander]

They don't seem interested:
http://star-techcentral.com/tech/story.asp?file=/2005/1/18/corpit/989916
9&sec=corpit

-----Original Message-----
From: CW [mailto:cmagers@earthlink.net]
Posted At: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 8:43 PM
Posted To: comp.cad.autocad
Conversation: Running Autocad in Linux?
Subject: Re: Running Autocad in Linux?


Chances are, there never will be a Linux version. Same can be said about
most mainstream software. There isn't the user base to support it.

"Perfect Reign" <theperfectreign@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:smcdw2ak46ey$.1ml4wrnuudpay$.dlg@40tude.net... Even better - when are they going to come out with a Linux version? Is
there any word on that? I'd love to dump my emulation programs
altogether.

[Steve]

You could
Buy another computer with WindowsXpsp2 and network it to your Linux Box with
samba.



"Perfect Reign" <theperfectreign@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1oasjt8q8abmy$.e3ze0gsmwjez.dlg@40tude.net... I am on a new project where I'll be implementing Archibus/FM site wide. Of course, we are using Autocad with this. We currently have 2002 but will be upgrading to 2005 ASAP. At work, I use Windows XP, which is okay for this system. At home,
however, I use SuSE Linux 9.2. I have tried installing both 2002 and 2004 in my Linux system but with no luck. I'm using Crossover Office to obtain Windows compatibility. Without downgrading to Windows XP, is there any way to get Autocad to work within Windows? -- kai - perfectreign at yahoo dot com www.perfectreign.com a palm tree nodded at me last night he said, hey you look so pale

[Perfect Reign]

On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 08:01:52 -0500, someone posing as Bob Alexander chisled
in the wall:
They don't seem interested: http://star-techcentral.com/tech/story.asp?file=/2005/1/18/corpit/989916 9&sec=corpit

Yeah, I see this:

From: LP
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 9:46 AM
To: Kai
Subject: RE: Feedback Form: Online Purchase


Hi - Autodesk does not have a Linux version of AutoCAD - please consult
with one of our Authorized Resellers (look one up in your area here:
www.autodesk.com/resellers ) for advice on where you might find a Linux
product that meets your requirements.

Les
Program Manager
Autodesk Stores

-----Original Message-----
From: kai
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 7:13 AM
To: FeedbackE-Commerce
Subject: Feedback Form: Online Purchase

Looking for an RPM of 2005 for my system. I run SuSE 9.2 (Linux) with KDE.
I cannot find a Linux version. Can you please point me to this

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k

[Perfect Reign]

On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:11:27 -0500, someone posing as Steve chisled in the
wall:
You could Buy another computer with WindowsXpsp2 and network it to your Linux Box with samba.


Nah, woudn't want to downgrade.

Remember: Friends don't let friends use Windows XP.


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www.perfectreign.com
....a palm tree nodded at me last night
he said, hey you look so pale...

[3Dim]

http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:1CXnVE0qLpsJ:netsecurity.about.com/cs/linuxsecurity/a/aa022304.htm+flaws+linux&hl=en


"Perfect Reign" <theperfectreign@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:d5zndb9lmdi3.m1t9am2pc1fz.dlg@40tude.net... On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:11:27 -0500, someone posing as Steve chisled in the wall: You could Buy another computer with WindowsXpsp2 and network it to your Linux Box with samba. Nah, woudn't want to downgrade. Remember: Friends don't let friends use Windows XP. -- kai - perfectreign at yahoo dot com www.perfectreign.com ...a palm tree nodded at me last night he said, hey you look so pale...

[Steve]

In that case use Qcad on Linux and welcome back to Autocad13!




<<Leave it to the skilled physician to whine charms...>>



"Perfect Reign" <theperfectreign@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:d5zndb9lmdi3.m1t9am2pc1fz.dlg@40tude.net... On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:11:27 -0500, someone posing as Steve chisled in the wall: You could Buy another computer with WindowsXpsp2 and network it to your Linux Box
with samba. Nah, woudn't want to downgrade. Remember: Friends don't let friends use Windows XP. -- kai - perfectreign at yahoo dot com www.perfectreign.com ...a palm tree nodded at me last night he said, hey you look so pale...

[Perfect Reign]

On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 22:44:54 +0100, someone posing as 3Dim chisled in the
wall:
Nah, woudn't want to downgrade.
http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:1CXnVE0qLpsJ:netsecurity.about.com/cs/linuxsecurity/a/aa022304.htm+flaws+linux&hl=en

Oooh, that's scary. (not) I had a kernel upgrade the day after that was
posted.

Try this on for size.

In Windows your passwords are stored in a hive of the registry called
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SECURITY\SAM\Domains\Account\Users

They are MD5 encrypted, but that's easy to break with any available MD5
tool. Now, launch regedit and try to navigate to that tree - can't right?
Good. This is how it is supposed to be.

Now, open a command prompt and type in

at hh:mm /interactive regedit

For the hh:mm, substitute the curent time plus one minute in 24-hour
format. So, right now it is 3:16, I'd type in 15:17.

In one minute, regedit will open and voila - you have the sam hive.

I love NTLM security.

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kai - perfectreign at yahoo dot com
www.perfectreign.com
....a palm tree nodded at me last night
he said, hey you look so pale...

[gruhn]

> Even better - when are they going to come out with a Linux version? Is there any word on that?

I could give you one word on that - why

[gruhn]

> Nah, woudn't want to downgrade. Remember: Friends don't let friends use Windows XP.

So drawing isn't as important to you as playing with an OS?

[Riggs]

"Perfect Reign" <theperfectreign@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:d5zndb9lmdi3.m1t9am2pc1fz.dlg@40tude.net... On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:11:27 -0500, someone posing as Steve chisled in the wall: You could Buy another computer with WindowsXpsp2 and network it to your Linux Box with samba. Nah, woudn't want to downgrade. Remember: Friends don't let friends use Windows XP.

I dont see what the big deal is. I have gone from DOS through every single
Windows OS, and though the older versions sucked, XP Pro is great. No
crashes, no headaches, no need to be a programmer as well as an
architect/engineer to run it.

[CW]

Apparently not.

"gruhn" <gruhn@deletehwb.com> wrote in message
news:ZvYHd.22$b6.17744@news.uswest.net... Nah, woudn't want to downgrade. Remember: Friends don't let friends use Windows XP. So drawing isn't as important to you as playing with an OS?

[Martin Shoemaker]

Probably not. At least not work well. Stef Yoder had some success with
LT2002 (I think), but I haven't seen anything recent. One of the
problems is that AutoCad tends to directly read the keyboard rather than
going through the Windows API. How they get by with doing that and
still have Windows logo compliance is a mystery.

I think BricsCad has a linux beta for Intellicad.

Martin


Perfect Reign wrote: I am on a new project where I'll be implementing Archibus/FM site wide. Of course, we are using Autocad with this. We currently have 2002 but will be upgrading to 2005 ASAP. At work, I use Windows XP, which is okay for this system. At home, however, I use SuSE Linux 9.2. I have tried installing both 2002 and 2004 in my Linux system but with no luck. I'm using Crossover Office to obtain Windows compatibility. Without downgrading to Windows XP, is there any way to get Autocad to work within Windows?

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"Perfect Reign" <theperfectreign@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:d5zndb9lmdi3.m1t9am2pc1fz.dlg@40tude.net... On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:11:27 -0500, someone posing as Steve chisled in the wall: You could Buy another computer with WindowsXpsp2 and network it to your Linux Box
with samba. Nah, woudn't want to downgrade. Remember: Friends don't let friends use Windows XP. -- kai - perfectreign at yahoo dot com www.perfectreign.com ...a palm tree nodded at me last night he said, hey you look so pale...

[Avatar]

Crossover Office will not run AutoCAD.
qCAD is quicker & very nice, but only 2D. I highly recommend it.

to run AutoCAD without downgrading to windoze you will need VMWare or Win4Lin.


In article <41f06ecd$1_3@newsfeed.slurp.net>,
Martin Shoemaker <hmspe@cableaz.com> writes: Probably not. At least not work well. Stef Yoder had some success with LT2002 (I think), but I haven't seen anything recent. One of the problems is that AutoCad tends to directly read the keyboard rather than going through the Windows API. How they get by with doing that and still have Windows logo compliance is a mystery. I think BricsCad has a linux beta for Intellicad. Martin Perfect Reign wrote: I am on a new project where I'll be implementing Archibus/FM site wide. Of course, we are using Autocad with this. We currently have 2002 but will be upgrading to 2005 ASAP. At work, I use Windows XP, which is okay for this system. At home, however, I use SuSE Linux 9.2. I have tried installing both 2002 and 2004 in my Linux system but with no luck. I'm using Crossover Office to obtain Windows compatibility. Without downgrading to Windows XP, is there any way to get Autocad to work within Windows?

[Perfect Reign]

Avatar wrote:
Crossover Office will not run AutoCAD. qCAD is quicker & very nice, but only 2D. I highly recommend it. to run AutoCAD without downgrading to windoze you will need VMWare or Win4Lin.

Yes, I tried CX Office with both Autocad 2004 and 2005. Neither loaded
correctly.

I've tried getting a copy of VMWare to test before I buy, but haven't found
one...yet. Win4Lin, IIRC, gives you a new kernel, right? I want to stay
away from that.

I do have qCAD loaded for learning purposes.

Thanks for your answer!

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kai
www.perfectreign.com
"i believe in what i'm doing, but what is it i'm doing here"

[Louis]

He's one of these people who think Linux is some perfect operating system. I
don't often agree to M$'s money hungry tactics but Linux has its limitations
as well. Linux has had years to prove itself, yet remains on the periphery
of the OS market. I also have Linux and it has proven not to be a cure-all.
We use XP sp2 in the office and it performs well. I find the problems people
have are due to the lack of understanding the proper configuration of it.

My main gripe is that developers of high cost professional software such as
AutoCAD need to work to improve the stability of it. AutoCAD crashes due to
a problem with the dwg far too much. Better error trapping is in order. I've
never seen Windows XP crash (unless there was a hardware failure). People
who dealt with Windows 95, 98, ME (shudder) and perhaps NT (many vendors
could never get NT drivers right or no drivers at all) had valid complaints.
bg

"gruhn" <gruhn@deletehwb.com> wrote in message
news:ZvYHd.22$b6.17744@news.uswest.net... Nah, woudn't want to downgrade. Remember: Friends don't let friends use Windows XP. So drawing isn't as important to you as playing with an OS?

[Perfect Reign]

Someone posing as BG250 dropped their pants and wrote on the wall:


(Top posting corrected.)
"gruhn" <gruhn@deletehwb.com> wrote in message news:ZvYHd.22$b6.17744@news.uswest.net... Nah, woudn't want to downgrade. Remember: Friends don't let friends use Windows XP. So drawing isn't as important to you as playing with an OS?

Actually the reason I don't like XP has nothing to do with drawing or
playing with an OS.

I'd prefer to use a stable OS which isn't a downgrade from the previous
version. Here at home, I dual-boot Win2K and Linux. I use Windows when
necessary, but find it inconvenient and limiting. If the applications
exist on Linux, I'd prefer to use this OS. In addition, I'm not worried
about viruses/spyware on Linux, because they just can't happen like the do
in Windows NT (xp/2k). I still use Win2K because I believe it a fast and
fairly stable upgrade from NT4.

WinXP (a.k.a. NT 5.1) is a poor merge of Win2K and Me, with too many
limiting factors and stability issues. I won't use it at home.

He's one of these people who think Linux is some perfect operating system.

Actually I am not. I just think that Linux sucks less than Windows for a
modern OS. I've been using WinNT since it was called OS/2 1.3 and highly
recommended it for awhile, particularly when NT 4 came out in '96.
I don't often agree to M$'s money hungry tactics but Linux has its limitations as well. Linux has had years to prove itself, yet remains on the periphery of the OS market.

Your argument here is flawed - you equate popularity with quality. MS used
to have a decent OS (Nt 3.51/4) but has failed to keep up with the times.
It is only through their massive vendor influence that they've remained
anywhere near the top.

I also have Linux and it has proven not to be a cure-all.

Nope - Linux cannot be a cure-all. I - for one - cannot run my ATI video
capture card drivers under Linux. Is that the fault of the OS? No. Just the
fact that ATI never wrote drivers for this card.

We use XP sp2 in the office and it performs well. I find the problems people have are due to the lack of understanding the proper configuration of it.

That is often the case. I have not this issue - in fact the issues I have
with stability and OS performance are well-known.


My main gripe is that developers of high cost professional software such as AutoCAD need to work to improve the stability of it.

I am very new to Autocad as I am now implementing a large-scale facilities
management project where AutoCAD is used in conjunction with Archibus/FM.
I agree with the stability. I find it crashes far too often. In addition,
the UI is pathetic, IMO.

However, many more applications crash on my WinXP machines than do on my 2K
machines. I am constantly sending those little error reports.

As for my Linux box, I've only had a few lesser-known apps crash, and have
never seen a BSOD.


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kai
www.perfectreign.com
"i believe in what i'm doing, but what is it i'm doing here"