Server Manager

[Redd]

We recently upgraded to Oracle 9i and have found that the svrmgr
tool no longer exists. I wanted to know if there was a way to copy
the svrmgr tool from the Oracle 8i bin directory to Oracle 9i bin
directory and make it work with Oracle 9i. Maybe some other
DLLs need to be copied as well or an entry made in one of the
system tables. Does anybody know a way.

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[DJ]

"Redd" <javatek?@usa.com> wrote in message
news:oIh7c.123637$rB4.103008@bignews6.bellsouth.net... We recently upgraded to Oracle 9i and have found that the svrmgr tool no longer exists. I wanted to know if there was a way to copy the svrmgr tool from the Oracle 8i bin directory to Oracle 9i bin directory and make it work with Oracle 9i. Maybe some other DLLs need to be copied as well or an entry made in one of the system tables. Does anybody know a way. -- javatek?@usa.com remove the ? to reply.

RTFM, svrmgrl doesnt exist in 9i, use sql*plus

whats with the insistence to use server manager?

[Ana C. Dent]

Redd wrote: We recently upgraded to Oracle 9i and have found that the svrmgr tool no longer exists. I wanted to know if there was a way to copy the svrmgr tool from the Oracle 8i bin directory to Oracle 9i bin directory and make it work with Oracle 9i. Maybe some other DLLs need to be copied as well or an entry made in one of the system tables. Does anybody know a way. -- javatek?@usa.com

use SQLPLUS as directed by the manuals.

[Mark C. Stock]

"Redd" <javatek?@usa.com> wrote in message
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| We recently upgraded to Oracle 9i and have found that the svrmgr
| tool no longer exists. I wanted to know if there was a way to copy
| the svrmgr tool from the Oracle 8i bin directory to Oracle 9i bin
| directory and make it work with Oracle 9i. Maybe some other
| DLLs need to be copied as well or an entry made in one of the
| system tables. Does anybody know a way.
|
| --
| javatek?@usa.com
|
| remove the ? to reply.
|
|

wouldn't recommend it... essential server manager functionality has been
moved to SQL*Plus, so there really should be no need to use svrmgr

;-{ mcs

[Mark C. Stock]

"Mark C. Stock" <mcstockX@Xenquery .com> wrote in message
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| "Redd" <javatek?@usa.com> wrote in message
| news:oIh7c.123637$rB4.103008@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
| | We recently upgraded to Oracle 9i and have found that the svrmgr
| | tool no longer exists. I wanted to know if there was a way to copy
| | the svrmgr tool from the Oracle 8i bin directory to Oracle 9i bin
| | directory and make it work with Oracle 9i. Maybe some other
| | DLLs need to be copied as well or an entry made in one of the
| | system tables. Does anybody know a way.
| |
| | --
| | javatek?@usa.com
| |
| | remove the ? to reply.
| |
| |
|
| wouldn't recommend it... essential server manager functionality has been
| moved to SQL*Plus, so there really should be no need to use svrmgr
|
| ;-{ mcs
|
|

ps:

check out the migration guide -- appendix C in 9iR2, chapter 11 in 8i

;-{ mcs

[Daniel Morgan]

Redd wrote: We recently upgraded to Oracle 9i and have found that the svrmgr tool no longer exists. I wanted to know if there was a way to copy the svrmgr tool from the Oracle 8i bin directory to Oracle 9i bin directory and make it work with Oracle 9i. Maybe some other DLLs need to be copied as well or an entry made in one of the system tables. Does anybody know a way. -- javatek?@usa.com

The announcement of server manager's demise was made well over 4 years
ago.What cave have you been living in? Server Manager is gone: Forever.
So is internal. So are rollback tablespaces and rollback segments.
So is the Rule Based Optimizer. So are dictionary managed tablespaces,
temp tablespaces, and numerous other antiquities.

Unless you like the sound of "Would you like fries with that" you
need to keep current and not try to keep doing Oracle version 7
stuff in 9i and 10g.

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[Mark C. Stock]

rough night?

;-{ mcs

"Daniel Morgan" <damorgan@x.washington.edu> wrote in message
news:1079898501.259455@yasure...
| Redd wrote:
| > We recently upgraded to Oracle 9i and have found that the svrmgr
| > tool no longer exists. I wanted to know if there was a way to copy
| > the svrmgr tool from the Oracle 8i bin directory to Oracle 9i bin
| > directory and make it work with Oracle 9i. Maybe some other
| > DLLs need to be copied as well or an entry made in one of the
| > system tables. Does anybody know a way.
| >
| > --
| > javatek?@usa.com
|
| The announcement of server manager's demise was made well over 4 years
| ago.What cave have you been living in? Server Manager is gone: Forever.
| So is internal. So are rollback tablespaces and rollback segments.
| So is the Rule Based Optimizer. So are dictionary managed tablespaces,
| temp tablespaces, and numerous other antiquities.
|
| Unless you like the sound of "Would you like fries with that" you
| need to keep current and not try to keep doing Oracle version 7
| stuff in 9i and 10g.
|
| --
| Daniel Morgan
| http://www.outreach.washington.edu/ext/certificates/oad/oad_crs.asp
| http://www.outreach.washington.edu/ext/certificates/aoa/aoa_crs.asp
| damorgan@x.washington.edu
| (replace 'x' with a 'u' to reply)
|

[Jan Gelbrich]

<snip>
Server Manager is gone: Forever. So is internal.

Right. But ...
So are dictionary managed tablespaces, RBO ...
</snip>

Really ? AFAIK, DMTs are only _depreciated_ , but still _avaibale_
and still default in 9i (!).

Please correct me if I am wrong.
Aren´t DMTs and "many other antiquities" gone with 10g rather than with 9i ?

Just curious,
Jan

[Chuck]

Daniel Morgan <damorgan@x.washington.edu> wrote in news:1079898501.259455
@yasure:
Redd wrote: We recently upgraded to Oracle 9i and have found that the svrmgr tool no longer exists. I wanted to know if there was a way to copy the svrmgr tool from the Oracle 8i bin directory to Oracle 9i bin directory and make it work with Oracle 9i. Maybe some other DLLs need to be copied as well or an entry made in one of the system tables. Does anybody know a way. -- javatek?@usa.com The announcement of server manager's demise was made well over 4 years ago.What cave have you been living in? Server Manager is gone: Forever. So is internal. So are rollback tablespaces and rollback segments. So is the Rule Based Optimizer. So are dictionary managed tablespaces, temp tablespaces, and numerous other antiquities. Unless you like the sound of "Would you like fries with that" you need to keep current and not try to keep doing Oracle version 7 stuff in 9i and 10g.

AFAIK 9i still supports DMT's, rollback segments, and rollback
tablespaces. The only reason anyone I can think of why anyone would use
them however is because they were forced to migrate to 9i and haven't had
the time to implement the newer features.

svgmgr as you said is gone and oracle has been saying since version 8.0
to stop using it.
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Chuck
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[Chuck]

"Redd" <javatek?@usa.com> wrote in news:oIh7c.123637$rB4.103008
@bignews6.bellsouth.net:
We recently upgraded to Oracle 9i and have found that the svrmgr tool no longer exists. I wanted to know if there was a way to copy the svrmgr tool from the Oracle 8i bin directory to Oracle 9i bin directory and make it work with Oracle 9i. Maybe some other DLLs need to be copied as well or an entry made in one of the system tables. Does anybody know a way. -- javatek?@usa.com remove the ? to reply.

Switching to sqlplus is not that difficult. You could do a global replace
on all your scripts to fix them. Change all occurences of "svrmgrl" to
"sqlplus". Change all occurences of "internal" to "/ as sysdba". If it's
on the command line you need to escape the spaces. It's that simple.
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[Daniel Morgan]

Jan Gelbrich wrote: <snip>Server Manager is gone: Forever.So is internal. Right. But ...So are dictionary managed tablespaces, RBO ... </snip> Really ? AFAIK, DMTs are only _depreciated_ , but still _avaibale_ and still default in 9i (!). Please correct me if I am wrong. Aren´t DMTs and "many other antiquities" gone with 10g rather than with 9i ? Just curious, Jan

9i? 9i is years old. I'm talking 10g. While some of these relics
remained in 9i to help DBAs and developers with the transition.
Those interested in continuing to work with Oracle jumped on the
9i release to leave these things in the past.

And Mark's guess was wrong. Bad night? Heck no ... I had one of
the best nights of my life. And that's all I say because I don't
kiss and tell. ;-)

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[Niall Litchfield]

"Jan Gelbrich" <j_gelbrich@westfalen-blatt.de> wrote in message
news:c3mn3s$290vcg$1@ID-93924.news.uni-berlin.de... <snip> Server Manager is gone: Forever. So is internal. Right. But ... So are dictionary managed tablespaces, RBO ... </snip> Really ? AFAIK, DMTs are only _depreciated_ , but still _avaibale_ and still default in 9i (!). Please correct me if I am wrong. Aren´t DMTs and "many other antiquities" gone with 10g rather than with 9i
? Just curious,

DMTs aren't gone even in 10.


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Niall Litchfield
Oracle DBA
Audit Commission UK

[Daniel Morgan]

Niall Litchfield wrote:
"Jan Gelbrich" <j_gelbrich@westfalen-blatt.de> wrote in message news:c3mn3s$290vcg$1@ID-93924.news.uni-berlin.de...<snip>Server Manager is gone: Forever.So is internal.Right. But ...So are dictionary managed tablespaces, RBO ...</snip>Really ? AFAIK, DMTs are only _depreciated_ , but still _avaibale_and still default in 9i (!).Please correct me if I am wrong.Aren´t DMTs and "many other antiquities" gone with 10g rather than with 9i ?Just curious, DMTs aren't gone even in 10.

Apparently another change from Beta to the final release. I've found
more than a few others too. Too bad. They should have stuck a knife
in them.

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[Alan]

I am still supporting some 7.3.4. Our "latest" is 8i, to which most things
have finally been moved. 9i is in test. How do you spell 10g?


"Daniel Morgan" <damorgan@x.washington.edu> wrote in message
news:1079898501.259455@yasure... Redd wrote: We recently upgraded to Oracle 9i and have found that the svrmgr tool no longer exists. I wanted to know if there was a way to copy the svrmgr tool from the Oracle 8i bin directory to Oracle 9i bin directory and make it work with Oracle 9i. Maybe some other DLLs need to be copied as well or an entry made in one of the system tables. Does anybody know a way. -- javatek?@usa.com The announcement of server manager's demise was made well over 4 years ago.What cave have you been living in? Server Manager is gone: Forever. So is internal. So are rollback tablespaces and rollback segments. So is the Rule Based Optimizer. So are dictionary managed tablespaces, temp tablespaces, and numerous other antiquities. Unless you like the sound of "Would you like fries with that" you need to keep current and not try to keep doing Oracle version 7 stuff in 9i and 10g. -- Daniel Morgan http://www.outreach.washington.edu/ext/certificates/oad/oad_crs.asp http://www.outreach.washington.edu/ext/certificates/aoa/aoa_crs.asp damorgan@x.washington.edu (replace 'x' with a 'u' to reply)

[Mark C. Stock]

"Alan" <alan@erols.com> wrote in message
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| I am still supporting some 7.3.4. Our "latest" is 8i, to which most things
| have finally been moved. 9i is in test. How do you spell 10g?
|
|

just taught a 9i PL/SQL class this past week, and one student tells me
they're running Oracle V4 (anybody around here old enough to remember
that?). well, it turns out their app was v4, the database was v7 (we all
felt a bit better)

sometimes companies buy apps, don't buy support, things get stuck in limbo,
and somebody's got to support them -- but you know what, sometimes they
actually still work!

but yes, if management does bless acquiring and installing the current
version, by all means learn the new techniques

;-{ mcs