XQuery, xml_db tablespace

[JB]

We learned Oracle has pulled its XQuery processor for a while. This has
complicated plans for a prototype using SQL and XQuery, a decision
about xml_db tablespace and so on.

Is there another XQuery option (besides MSSQL 2005)?

Is this something we'll see with 10g R2?

[knorth]

JB wrote: We learned Oracle has pulled its XQuery processor for a while. This
has complicated plans for a prototype using SQL and XQuery, a decision about xml_db tablespace and so on.

Google returned a hit on this message because of "xml_db" (Xhive,
Zope). Did you mean a tablespace for Oracle XML DB?
Is there another XQuery option (besides MSSQL 2005)?

There are more than 30 XQuery engines. The ones that work with SQL data
sources include Altova and DataDirect. Check the URL below for the
complete list.

XQuery engines (more than 30)
www.SQLSummit.com/XQueryProv.h­tm

ODBC drivers (200+)
www.SQLSummit.com/odbcvend.htm

JDBC drivers (100+)
www.SQLSummit.com/jdbcvend.htm

..NET providers (30+)
www.SQLSummit.com/dataprov.htm

OLE DB providers (53)
www.SQLSummit.com/oledbven.htm


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[DA Morgan]

JB wrote: We learned Oracle has pulled its XQuery processor for a while. This has complicated plans for a prototype using SQL and XQuery, a decision about xml_db tablespace and so on. Is there another XQuery option (besides MSSQL 2005)? Is this something we'll see with 10g R2?

http://otn.oracle.com
Top right where it says "SEARCH"
enter "XQuery"

What was the source of your original information?

BTW: 10gR2 will be released long before MSSQL 2005: And it won't be
a version 1.0 Microsoft product and we all know what that means.
--
Daniel A. Morgan
http://www.psoug.org
damorgan@x.washington.edu
(replace x with u to respond)

[Mark C. Stock]

"DA Morgan" <damorgan@psoug.org> wrote in message
news:1116950375.650615@yasure... JB wrote: We learned Oracle has pulled its XQuery processor for a while. This has complicated plans for a prototype using SQL and XQuery, a decision about xml_db tablespace and so on. Is there another XQuery option (besides MSSQL 2005)? Is this something we'll see with 10g R2? http://otn.oracle.com Top right where it says "SEARCH" enter "XQuery" What was the source of your original information? BTW: 10gR2 will be released long before MSSQL 2005: And it won't be a version 1.0 Microsoft product and we all know what that means. -- Daniel A. Morgan http://www.psoug.org damorgan@x.washington.edu (replace x with u to respond)

Kind of sounds like a 'Paul is dead' rumor...

++ mcs

[DA Morgan]

Mark C. Stock wrote: "DA Morgan" <damorgan@psoug.org> wrote in message news:1116950375.650615@yasure...JB wrote:We learned Oracle has pulled its XQuery processor for a while. This hascomplicated plans for a prototype using SQL and XQuery, a decisionabout xml_db tablespace and so on.Is there another XQuery option (besides MSSQL 2005)?Is this something we'll see with 10g R2?http://otn.oracle.comTop right where it says "SEARCH"enter "XQuery"What was the source of your original information?BTW: 10gR2 will be released long before MSSQL 2005: And it won't bea version 1.0 Microsoft product and we all know what that means.--Daniel A. Morganhttp://www.psoug.orgdamorgan@x.washington.edu(replace x with u to respond) Kind of sounds like a 'Paul is dead' rumor... ++ mcs

Oops ... correction on my previous posting. MSSQL 2005 IS a brand new
code base rewritten to try to copy Oracle functionality such as MVCC.
It IS a version 1.0 product.
--
Daniel A. Morgan
Relational theory is not something that is simply a nice-to-have.
http://www.psoug.org
damorgan@x.washington.edu
(replace x with u to respond)

[JB]

> What was the source of your original information?

It came up in a project meeting. Someone read a newsgroup message about
Oracle's XQuery being removed. He checked Oracle's web site to confirm
it. He's traveling and I don't know where he found the information, but
this page says XQuery is not currently available for download:

http://otn.oracle.com/sample_code/tech/xml/xmldb/xmldb_xquerydownload.html

[JB]

www.SQLSummit.com/XQueryProv.htm

I followed the XQuery video link near the top of that page. There was a
video with a researcher at Oracle (Daniela Florescu) and one of her
slide presentations. It included some negative comments about XQuery
before presenting several slides about the advantages.

[Frank van Bortel]

JB wrote:What was the source of your original information? It came up in a project meeting. Someone read a newsgroup message about Oracle's XQuery being removed. He checked Oracle's web site to confirm it. He's traveling and I don't know where he found the information, but this page says XQuery is not currently available for download: http://otn.oracle.com/sample_code/tech/xml/xmldb/xmldb_xquerydownload.html

FUD!

There's a new version coming; probably incompatible with the demo, which
was consequently removed.
<q>
Updated: May 2005

As we are getting ready to roll out the production release of Oracle XQuery
</q>
--
Regards,
Frank van Bortel

[JB]

Kind of sounds like a 'Paul is dead' rumor.

The Oracle web site says the XQuery version that was available for
download has been removed (pending completion of testing).

Google turns up this page for "Paul is dead". It's not recent. Is it
going around again?
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/3674/pid.html

[JB]

FUD!

My original message said "We learned Oracle has pulled its XQuery
processor for a while."

I'm don't see what's incorrect about that statement but thanks for the
clarification.

Will there be an OTN download of the production XQuery?

[Frank van Bortel]

JB wrote:FUD! My original message said "We learned Oracle has pulled its XQuery processor for a while." I'm don't see what's incorrect about that statement but thanks for the clarification. Will there be an OTN download of the production XQuery?
Not the one I responded on, which you snipped from your reply:
<q>
It came up in a project meeting. Someone read a newsgroup message about
Oracle's XQuery being removed. He checked Oracle's web site to confirm
it. He's traveling and I don't know where he found the information, but
this page says XQuery is not currently available for download:
</q>

--
Regards,
Frank van Bortel

[knorth]

JB wrote: www.SQLSummit.com/XQueryProv.htm I followed the XQuery video link near the top of that page. There was a video with a researcher at Oracle (Daniela Florescu) and one of her slide presentations.

Dana is one of the editors of the XQuery 1.0 spec (the only one from
Oracle).

None of the current XQuery processors is a "production release" because
the most recent XQuery 1.0 spec (4 April) is a working draft.

[DA Morgan]

JB wrote:What was the source of your original information? It came up in a project meeting. Someone read a newsgroup message about Oracle's XQuery being removed. He checked Oracle's web site to confirm it. He's traveling and I don't know where he found the information, but this page says XQuery is not currently available for download: http://otn.oracle.com/sample_code/tech/xml/xmldb/xmldb_xquerydownload.html

Not available for download has a meaning unto itself. InterMedia is
also not available for download ... yet it is every database I've
created in recent memory: Stick with Oracle.
--
Daniel A. Morgan
Relational theory is not something that is simply a nice-to-have.
http://www.psoug.org
damorgan@x.washington.edu
(replace x with u to respond)