hdd speeds / etc

[Kenabi Tsuki]

1 10gig fujitsu (dma66/master)
1 20gig seagate (dma100?/slave)

using drivespeed (off hirens bootcd v6), i get a 9.1mb/s(287score)
result off my primary drive, and 145.7mb/s(2049 score) off the secondary
what i don't get, is that given how i have a board new enough to not
have the "highest drive is the total speed you'll get from either drive"
limitation, and that having mixed drives won't slow either one down.

why exactly is it, that my primary is now harfing on speed when a while
ago it was fine (note: tested 6 ways to sunday, tests fine, no noises.
no problems. just slow)

my friends does the same thing in reverse (secondary is slow) and his
primary is a 4gb

motherboard: msi 6330 LE v3

potential chipset issues? via sucking the vaccuum again? any
help/insights would be grand.

-Tsuki

[Charles Howse]

Previously Kenabi Tsuki <lcasley.nospam@qwest.net> wrote: 1 10gig fujitsu (dma66/master) 1 20gig seagate (dma100?/slave)
using drivespeed (off hirens bootcd v6), i get a 9.1mb/s(287score) result off my primary drive, and 145.7mb/s(2049 score) off the secondary what i don't get, is that given how i have a board new enough to not have the "highest drive is the total speed you'll get from either drive" limitation, and that having mixed drives won't slow either one down.
why exactly is it, that my primary is now harfing on speed when a while ago it was fine (note: tested 6 ways to sunday, tests fine, no noises. no problems. just slow)

O.K., the speed of the primary is around 1.1MB/s (assuming your units are
actually Mb, namely mega-bit, otherwise the measurement on the secondary
would be too fast to be possible). That sounds very much like PIO access
instead of DMA. The speed of the secondary is around 18MB/s, which
is fine for that disk generation.

Arno

P.S.: To be exact mb is mili-bit, i.e. 1/1000 bit. Please take care
about the letter case. It carries semantics.
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[Kenabi Tsuki]

mm, rebooting and checking the post-POST screen reveals both drives
running at "dma66", yet i get these scores with the drive tester
seen in the image @ http://kenabi.nulani.net/drives.jpg

windows also reports the drives running in UDMA

any more leads?

-Tsuki

and yes, i'll admit i was reading part of the output wrong, but not the
MB/mb part ;o just the "MB Rating" section. still, it's ungodly slow for
a drive running in dma66 ;o

Arno Wagner wrote: Previously Kenabi Tsuki <lcasley.nospam@qwest.net> wrote:1 10gig fujitsu (dma66/master)1 20gig seagate (dma100?/slave)using drivespeed (off hirens bootcd v6), i get a 9.1mb/s(287score)result off my primary drive, and 145.7mb/s(2049 score) off the secondarywhat i don't get, is that given how i have a board new enough to nothave the "highest drive is the total speed you'll get from either drive"limitation, and that having mixed drives won't slow either one down.why exactly is it, that my primary is now harfing on speed when a whileago it was fine (note: tested 6 ways to sunday, tests fine, no noises.no problems. just slow) O.K., the speed of the primary is around 1.1MB/s (assuming your units are actually Mb, namely mega-bit, otherwise the measurement on the secondary would be too fast to be possible). That sounds very much like PIO access instead of DMA. The speed of the secondary is around 18MB/s, which is fine for that disk generation. Arno P.S.: To be exact mb is mili-bit, i.e. 1/1000 bit. Please take care about the letter case. It carries semantics.

[CJT]

Kenabi Tsuki wrote:
mm, rebooting and checking the post-POST screen reveals both drives running at "dma66", yet i get these scores with the drive tester seen in the image @ http://kenabi.nulani.net/drives.jpg windows also reports the drives running in UDMA any more leads?

try a different cable on the slow drive -Tsuki and yes, i'll admit i was reading part of the output wrong, but not the MB/mb part ;o just the "MB Rating" section. still, it's ungodly slow for a drive running in dma66 ;o Arno Wagner wrote: Previously Kenabi Tsuki <lcasley.nospam@qwest.net> wrote: 1 10gig fujitsu (dma66/master) 1 20gig seagate (dma100?/slave) using drivespeed (off hirens bootcd v6), i get a 9.1mb/s(287score) result off my primary drive, and 145.7mb/s(2049 score) off the secondary what i don't get, is that given how i have a board new enough to not have the "highest drive is the total speed you'll get from either drive" limitation, and that having mixed drives won't slow either one down. why exactly is it, that my primary is now harfing on speed when a while ago it was fine (note: tested 6 ways to sunday, tests fine, no noises. no problems. just slow) O.K., the speed of the primary is around 1.1MB/s (assuming your units are actually Mb, namely mega-bit, otherwise the measurement on the secondary would be too fast to be possible). That sounds very much like PIO access instead of DMA. The speed of the secondary is around 18MB/s, which is fine for that disk generation. Arno P.S.: To be exact mb is mili-bit, i.e. 1/1000 bit. Please take care about the letter case. It carries semantics.


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[Kenabi Tsuki]

heh.

primary ide:
10gig fujitsu (master)
20gig seagate(slave)

secondary ide:
samsung 16/10/40-cdrw (master)
nec 48x cdrom(slave)

for the sake of the troubleshooting, i changed the cables anyway
new 80wire all around. no change at all.

and i was wrong, the second hard drive is running ata100 :/

but since the fujitsu is running in ata66 i should be getting much
better speeds off it (>16mb) and i'm not, which is pissing me off
something fierce. grrr. win2k shouldn't take 5 minutes to boot.
it didn't a couple weeks ago.

-Tsuki


CJT wrote: Kenabi Tsuki wrote: mm, rebooting and checking the post-POST screen reveals both drives running at "dma66", yet i get these scores with the drive tester seen in the image @ http://kenabi.nulani.net/drives.jpg windows also reports the drives running in UDMA any more leads? try a different cable on the slow drive -Tsuki and yes, i'll admit i was reading part of the output wrong, but not the MB/mb part ;o just the "MB Rating" section. still, it's ungodly slow for a drive running in dma66 ;o Arno Wagner wrote: Previously Kenabi Tsuki <lcasley.nospam@qwest.net> wrote:> 1 10gig fujitsu (dma66/master)> 1 20gig seagate (dma100?/slave)> using drivespeed (off hirens bootcd v6), i get a 9.1mb/s(287score)> result off my primary drive, and 145.7mb/s(2049 score) off the> secondary> what i don't get, is that given how i have a board new enough to not> have the "highest drive is the total speed you'll get from either> drive" limitation, and that having mixed drives won't slow either> one down.> why exactly is it, that my primary is now harfing on speed when a> while ago it was fine (note: tested 6 ways to sunday, tests fine, no> noises. no problems. just slow) O.K., the speed of the primary is around 1.1MB/s (assuming your units are actually Mb, namely mega-bit, otherwise the measurement on the secondary would be too fast to be possible). That sounds very much like PIO access instead of DMA. The speed of the secondary is around 18MB/s, which is fine for that disk generation. Arno P.S.: To be exact mb is mili-bit, i.e. 1/1000 bit. Please take care about the letter case. It carries semantics.

[Charles Howse]

Previously Kenabi Tsuki <lcasley.nospam@qwest.net> wrote: mm, rebooting and checking the post-POST screen reveals both drives running at "dma66", yet i get these scores with the drive tester seen in the image @ http://kenabi.nulani.net/drives.jpg
windows also reports the drives running in UDMA
any more leads?
-Tsuki
and yes, i'll admit i was reading part of the output wrong, but not the MB/mb part ;o just the "MB Rating" section. still, it's ungodly slow for a drive running in dma66 ;o

It is. Maybe the drive is failing?

Arno
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[Charles Howse]

Previously Kenabi Tsuki <lcasley.nospam@qwest.net> wrote: heh.
primary ide: 10gig fujitsu (master) 20gig seagate(slave)
secondary ide: samsung 16/10/40-cdrw (master) nec 48x cdrom(slave)
for the sake of the troubleshooting, i changed the cables anyway new 80wire all around. no change at all.
and i was wrong, the second hard drive is running ata100 :/
but since the fujitsu is running in ata66 i should be getting much better speeds off it (>16mb) and i'm not, which is pissing me off something fierce. grrr. win2k shouldn't take 5 minutes to boot. it didn't a couple weeks ago.

Hmm. I have seen the following failure mode in Linux: Disk makes some
bus errors, kernel kicks it back to PIO mode. This would not be
visible in the boot-screen. And 2MB/s is a typical PIO speed.

Arno
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