learning about routers / access points

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I'm beginning to feel stupid about networking. I've got a cable modem
hardwired to a router (proxim bg2000) which is hardwired to a ethernet
card inside a pc (I'll call this PC one). PC one also has a wireless
nic inside of it. Then I have several other pc's and one laptop
sharing the internet as a wireless network. I'm trying to eliminate
the hardwire from the router to PC one and have it work as wireless.
As it's now setup, if I shut off PC one, all the other pc's lose
access to the internet except the laptop which can still access the
internet. I want all the pc's to behave as the laptop does such that
if any pc is turned off, the other pc's can still access the internet.
Can I do this with this router or do I need another piece of hardware?
I am thinking of calling Proxim for tech support but just want to ask
here first.

[Yousuf Khan]

<franklin101@no_email_please.net> wrote in message
news:0154uv85e3q9bqls91k2bemoriulev7uib@4ax.com... I'm beginning to feel stupid about networking. I've got a cable modem hardwired to a router (proxim bg2000) which is hardwired to a ethernet card inside a pc (I'll call this PC one). PC one also has a wireless nic inside of it. Then I have several other pc's and one laptop sharing the internet as a wireless network. I'm trying to eliminate the hardwire from the router to PC one and have it work as wireless. As it's now setup, if I shut off PC one, all the other pc's lose access to the internet except the laptop which can still access the internet. I want all the pc's to behave as the laptop does such that if any pc is turned off, the other pc's can still access the internet. Can I do this with this router or do I need another piece of hardware? I am thinking of calling Proxim for tech support but just want to ask here first.

Reading up on the Proxim BG2000 router, it looks like this router only has
two Ethernet ports, which I assume one goes to the cable modem, while the
other one goes to your PC One. What you have to do is buy a cheap little
device called an Ethernet hub, and plug that between the Proxim and your PC
One. Ethernet hubs can be had anywhere from $20 on up, depending on how many
ports that you have on it. Usually the cheapest ones only come with four or
five ports on it, which should be enough for your case.

What you have to do is unplug the PC One and put that Ethernet cable into
one of the empty plugs of the hub. Then you take another Ethernet cable, and
plug one end into PC One and the other end into any one of the remaining
empty plugs of the hub. Then take all of the rest of your wired PC and plug
them into the remaining empty plugs of the hub. It's as simple as that, you
probably won't have to reconfigure any software on your PC either.

BTW, if you had gotten another router, such as one from Linksys or Dlink,
you would have then had the router and the hub combined into one device.
These routers usually have one Ethernet port to connect to the cable or adsl
modem, while they have four other ports to connect to the PCs in your
personal network.

Yousuf Khan

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>On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 21:41:14 GMT, "Yousuf Khan" <removethisspam.bjsk90.removethispam@hotmail.com> wrote:
<franklin101@no_email_please.net> wrote in messagenews:0154uv85e3q9bqls91k2bemoriulev7uib@4ax.com... I'm beginning to feel stupid about networking. I've got a cable modem hardwired to a router (proxim bg2000) which is hardwired to a ethernet card inside a pc (I'll call this PC one). PC one also has a wireless nic inside of it. Then I have several other pc's and one laptop sharing the internet as a wireless network. I'm trying to eliminate the hardwire from the router to PC one and have it work as wireless. As it's now setup, if I shut off PC one, all the other pc's lose access to the internet except the laptop which can still access the internet. I want all the pc's to behave as the laptop does such that if any pc is turned off, the other pc's can still access the internet. Can I do this with this router or do I need another piece of hardware? I am thinking of calling Proxim for tech support but just want to ask here first.Reading up on the Proxim BG2000 router, it looks like this router only hastwo Ethernet ports, which I assume one goes to the cable modem, while theother one goes to your PC One. What you have to do is buy a cheap littledevice called an Ethernet hub, and plug that between the Proxim and your PCOne. Ethernet hubs can be had anywhere from $20 on up, depending on how manyports that you have on it. Usually the cheapest ones only come with four orfive ports on it, which should be enough for your case.What you have to do is unplug the PC One and put that Ethernet cable intoone of the empty plugs of the hub. Then you take another Ethernet cable, andplug one end into PC One and the other end into any one of the remainingempty plugs of the hub. Then take all of the rest of your wired PC and plugthem into the remaining empty plugs of the hub. It's as simple as that, youprobably won't have to reconfigure any software on your PC either.BTW, if you had gotten another router, such as one from Linksys or Dlink,you would have then had the router and the hub combined into one device.These routers usually have one Ethernet port to connect to the cable or adslmodem, while they have four other ports to connect to the PCs in yourpersonal network. Yousuf Khan

Thank you for the reply. But maybe I misunderstand your reply. I
want to have a wireless network for the pc's and the laptop.

[Yousuf Khan]

<franklin101@no_email_please.net> wrote in message
news:gn84uv8hfs0n0tu4o13b9pssokkrv84777@4ax.com...On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 21:41:14 GMT, "Yousuf Khan"
<removethisspam.bjsk90.removethispam@hotmail.com> wrote: Thank you for the reply. But maybe I misunderstand your reply. I want to have a wireless network for the pc's and the laptop.

Then that shouldn't be a problem at all, as long as all of your laptops and
PCs are also wireless. Is that what the case is going to be? Or are you
going to have some that are wired and some that are wireless?

Yousuf Khan

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>On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 03:02:56 GMT, "Yousuf Khan" <removethisspam.bjsk90.removethispam@hotmail.com> wrote:
<franklin101@no_email_please.net> wrote in messagenews:gn84uv8hfs0n0tu4o13b9pssokkrv84777@4ax.com...On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 21:41:14 GMT, "Yousuf Khan"<removethisspam.bjsk90.removethispam@hotmail.com> wrote: Thank you for the reply. But maybe I misunderstand your reply. I want to have a wireless network for the pc's and the laptop.Then that shouldn't be a problem at all, as long as all of your laptops andPCs are also wireless. Is that what the case is going to be? Or are yougoing to have some that are wired and some that are wireless? Yousuf Khan


All wireless, none wired.

[Yousuf Khan]

<franklin101@no_email_please.net> wrote in message
news:unt4uvsg8hteqminme29akc8d2e4iqa124@4ax.com...Then that shouldn't be a problem at all, as long as all of your laptops
andPCs are also wireless. Is that what the case is going to be? Or are yougoing to have some that are wired and some that are wireless? Yousuf Khan
All wireless, none wired.

Then you should be fine, just put a wireless card in each one, and have them
all connect to your wi-fi router's SSID name, like your laptop is doing now.
DHCP should assign each one a different private IP address.

Yousuf Khan

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>On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 04:45:39 GMT, "Yousuf Khan" <removethisspam.bjsk90.removethispam@hotmail.com> wrote:
<franklin101@no_email_please.net> wrote in messagenews:unt4uvsg8hteqminme29akc8d2e4iqa124@4ax.com...Then that shouldn't be a problem at all, as long as all of your laptopsandPCs are also wireless. Is that what the case is going to be? Or are yougoing to have some that are wired and some that are wireless? Yousuf Khan All wireless, none wired.Then you should be fine, just put a wireless card in each one, and have themall connect to your wi-fi router's SSID name, like your laptop is doing now.DHCP should assign each one a different private IP address. Yousuf Khan

Thanks. I've tried to do this yet still seems that this router
requires PC one to be wired to the router. I know it doesn't make
sense but I've tried a lot of different settings to no avail. I guess
I'll either call Proxim tech support or consider finding a router that
does do a "complete" wireless network.

Thanks again for your help.

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>On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 04:45:39 GMT, "Yousuf Khan" <removethisspam.bjsk90.removethispam@hotmail.com> wrote:
<franklin101@no_email_please.net> wrote in messagenews:unt4uvsg8hteqminme29akc8d2e4iqa124@4ax.com...Then that shouldn't be a problem at all, as long as all of your laptopsandPCs are also wireless. Is that what the case is going to be? Or are yougoing to have some that are wired and some that are wireless? Yousuf Khan All wireless, none wired.Then you should be fine, just put a wireless card in each one, and have themall connect to your wi-fi router's SSID name, like your laptop is doing now.DHCP should assign each one a different private IP address. Yousuf Khan


After reading a book, I just solved my problem. I didn't realize I
had to change the setting of all my desktop wireless cards from ad hoc
to access point networking and now all works as I expected / wanted.
Feel stupid after spending days changing settings only to learn this
now but better late then never.

Thanks again for trying to help me.

[Yousuf Khan]

<franklin101@no_email_please.net> wrote in message
news:h496uvglvtq14nndmver0ibp91f38tcler@4ax.com... After reading a book, I just solved my problem. I didn't realize I had to change the setting of all my desktop wireless cards from ad hoc to access point networking and now all works as I expected / wanted. Feel stupid after spending days changing settings only to learn this now but better late then never.

Good stuff!

Yousuf Khan

[Yousuf Khan]

"Yousuf Khan" <removethisspam.bjsk90.removethispam@hotmail.com> wrote in
message news:daKEb.93783$ea%.55124@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com... <franklin101@no_email_please.net> wrote in message news:h496uvglvtq14nndmver0ibp91f38tcler@4ax.com... After reading a book, I just solved my problem. I didn't realize I had to change the setting of all my desktop wireless cards from ad hoc to access point networking and now all works as I expected / wanted. Feel stupid after spending days changing settings only to learn this now but better late then never. Good stuff! Yousuf Khan

And don't forget to turn on at least 128-bit WEP encryption, once you're
sure that the wireless network is working fine in its default configuration.

Yousuf Khan

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>On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:22:52 GMT, "Yousuf Khan" <removethisspam.bjsk90.removethispam@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Yousuf Khan" <removethisspam.bjsk90.removethispam@hotmail.com> wrote inmessage news:daKEb.93783$ea%.55124@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com... <franklin101@no_email_please.net> wrote in message news:h496uvglvtq14nndmver0ibp91f38tcler@4ax.com... After reading a book, I just solved my problem. I didn't realize I had to change the setting of all my desktop wireless cards from ad hoc to access point networking and now all works as I expected / wanted. Feel stupid after spending days changing settings only to learn this now but better late then never. Good stuff! Yousuf KhanAnd don't forget to turn on at least 128-bit WEP encryption, once you'resure that the wireless network is working fine in its default configuration. Yousuf Khan

Will do. Thanks Yousuf for the help.