View Full Version : WINXP, wireless Netgear. Internet access ok, mail does not work.
Karolus des Reyches197
01-30-2004, 06:32 AM
I have the above configuration. A desktop with WINXP and a Laptop with
WINXP. Both home editions.
I use cable by Comcast in MD.
On the desktop all works fine, Internet and mail. Using IE and OE6.x.
On the laptop I use the same, the exact same settings and can access the
web, but cannot get mail.
The router is also Netgear MR314.
When I try to send or receive mail on the laptop it immediately comes up
with:
Your server has unexpectedly terminated, possible network problems, long
inactivity etc etc. None of that is true and I can at this very same time or
thereafter access the mail OE on the despot.
I have checked the settings and they are the same for Mail in laptop and
desktop.
Any other ideas that may help to fix this? Both computers are in the same
room. Signal strength is 5 bars, the highest.
Karolus des Reyches197
01-30-2004, 12:24 PM
I finally succeeded!!!!
I searched again my laptop and somewhere there was still Norton System Works
2002 installed. I had DISABLED it all the time, but apparently that was not
enough.
I did now a total un-install of it and now Internet (which did work before)
and now also E-mail work.
Thanks for all the advice and time of various people
Regards
Karel
"Karolus des Reyches197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
news:M--dnSveLdSe9ofdRVn-jQ@comcast.com... I have the above configuration. A desktop with WINXP and a Laptop with WINXP. Both home editions. I use cable by Comcast in MD. On the desktop all works fine, Internet and mail. Using IE and OE6.x. On the laptop I use the same, the exact same settings and can access the web, but cannot get mail. The router is also Netgear MR314. When I try to send or receive mail on the laptop it immediately comes up with: Your server has unexpectedly terminated, possible network problems, long inactivity etc etc. None of that is true and I can at this very same time
or thereafter access the mail OE on the despot. I have checked the settings and they are the same for Mail in laptop and desktop. Any other ideas that may help to fix this? Both computers are in the same room. Signal strength is 5 bars, the highest.
Al Bundy
01-30-2004, 12:32 PM
"Karolus des Reyches197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
news:zLidnfkpB4QNIIfdRVn-gQ@comcast.com... I finally succeeded!!!! I searched again my laptop and somewhere there was still Norton System
Works 2002 installed. I had DISABLED it all the time, but apparently that was
not enough. I did now a total un-install of it and now Internet (which did work
before) and now also E-mail work.
You really should make sure that you have at least the Antivirus installed.
When using a router, you have to make sure that you are using the correct
subdomain.
Easiest way to find it is to connect one PC directly to cable modem, go to a
DOS window and do an "IPCONFIG /renew" to get your IP information from your
ISP, then do an "IPCONFIG /all" and look for "primary dns suffix", if it's
blank try looking for "connection specific suffix".... This should go into
the DOMAIN setting of your router (or if it isn't there, into the domain
settings in your TCP/IP properties on your computer)
Karolus des Reyches197
01-31-2004, 12:57 PM
I rejoiced too soon!
You just won't believe it (or maybe you will).
But after I was able to get Mail and surf the WEB with the Laptop, I shut it
down, to go to a social meeting. A few hours later when I came back, the
laptop would NOT connect again. Also, the throughput, which was always
10Mbps, dropped to 2Mbps. Why?
But now I am really at a loss.
So would problem has overcome me now?
Regards
Karel
"Noozer" <postmaster@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
news:%bzSb.340815$X%5.21788@pd7tw2no... "Karolus des Reyches197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message news:zLidnfkpB4QNIIfdRVn-gQ@comcast.com... I finally succeeded!!!! I searched again my laptop and somewhere there was still Norton System Works 2002 installed. I had DISABLED it all the time, but apparently that was not enough. I did now a total un-install of it and now Internet (which did work before) and now also E-mail work. You really should make sure that you have at least the Antivirus
installed. When using a router, you have to make sure that you are using the correct subdomain. Easiest way to find it is to connect one PC directly to cable modem, go to
a DOS window and do an "IPCONFIG /renew" to get your IP information from
your ISP, then do an "IPCONFIG /all" and look for "primary dns suffix", if it's blank try looking for "connection specific suffix".... This should go into the DOMAIN setting of your router (or if it isn't there, into the domain settings in your TCP/IP properties on your computer)
Al Bundy
01-31-2004, 01:08 PM
"Karolus des Reyches197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
news:aaudnXz7tqQhi4HdRVn-gQ@comcast.com... I rejoiced too soon! You just won't believe it (or maybe you will). But after I was able to get Mail and surf the WEB with the Laptop, I shut
it down, to go to a social meeting. A few hours later when I came back, the laptop would NOT connect again. Also, the throughput, which was always 10Mbps, dropped to 2Mbps. Why?
Because you are using Wireless and it still really isn't good enough to rely
on.
I still think 802.11a is the way to go.
Karolus des Reyches197
01-31-2004, 01:14 PM
"a" ? Is that not from the ancient past?
I am using "b", not "g".
"Noozer" <postmaster@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
news:GPUSb.351162$X%5.172180@pd7tw2no... "Karolus des Reyches197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message news:aaudnXz7tqQhi4HdRVn-gQ@comcast.com... I rejoiced too soon! You just won't believe it (or maybe you will). But after I was able to get Mail and surf the WEB with the Laptop, I
shut it down, to go to a social meeting. A few hours later when I came back, the laptop would NOT connect again. Also, the throughput, which was always 10Mbps, dropped to 2Mbps. Why? Because you are using Wireless and it still really isn't good enough to
rely on. I still think 802.11a is the way to go.
Karolus des Reyches197
01-31-2004, 01:14 PM
"Noozer" <postmaster@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
news:GPUSb.351162$X%5.172180@pd7tw2no... "Karolus des Reyches197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message news:aaudnXz7tqQhi4HdRVn-gQ@comcast.com... I rejoiced too soon! You just won't believe it (or maybe you will). But after I was able to get Mail and surf the WEB with the Laptop, I
shut it down, to go to a social meeting. A few hours later when I came back, the laptop would NOT connect again. Also, the throughput, which was always 10Mbps, dropped to 2Mbps. Why? Because you are using Wireless and it still really isn't good enough to
rely on. I still think 802.11a is the way to go.
On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 16:14:17 -0500, "Karolus des Reyches197"
<Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote:
"a" ? Is that not from the ancient past?I am using "b", not "g".
It just depends on the environment, and the specific equipment. My
wireless 802.11b gear, mostly D-Link parts, works fine, is reliable
with exception of one very cheap no-name generic card that must stay
relatively nearby the router to work, though i'd already wired all key
locations with CAT-5E so my main disappointment is that I'm suddenly
reminded it's wireless when i try to do something over the lan, like
steaming higher bitrate video.
If your laptop card is a cheap generic, you might try a name brand
card... buy from someplace with a good return policy, and if it
doesn't help the range or speed just return it and pay the restocking
fee.
Karolus des Reyches197
01-31-2004, 05:19 PM
My equipment is all NETGEAR. MR 314 router and MA 401 Card.
"kony" <spam@spam.com> wrote in message
news:u5fo101611tvo7ikkreojpu0chhf74ibd6@4ax.com... On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 16:14:17 -0500, "Karolus des Reyches197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote:"a" ? Is that not from the ancient past?I am using "b", not "g". It just depends on the environment, and the specific equipment. My wireless 802.11b gear, mostly D-Link parts, works fine, is reliable with exception of one very cheap no-name generic card that must stay relatively nearby the router to work, though i'd already wired all key locations with CAT-5E so my main disappointment is that I'm suddenly reminded it's wireless when i try to do something over the lan, like steaming higher bitrate video. If your laptop card is a cheap generic, you might try a name brand card... buy from someplace with a good return policy, and if it doesn't help the range or speed just return it and pay the restocking fee.
Michael
02-01-2004, 08:55 AM
"Karolus des Reyches197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
news:HIqdncyif7QBh4HdRVn-jw@comcast.com... "a" ? Is that not from the ancient past? I am using "b", not "g". "Noozer" <postmaster@127.0.0.1> wrote in message news:GPUSb.351162$X%5.172180@pd7tw2no... Because you are using Wireless and it still really isn't good enough to rely on. I still think 802.11a is the way to go.
Not at all. 802.11a is a newer, faster standard. 802.11b and g both run in
the 2.4Ghz spectrum, while 802.11a runs in the 5Ghz spectrum. 802.11b
maximum speed is 11Mbps, 802.11g maximum is 22Mbps and 802.11a maximum speed
is 54Mbps. 802.11a is also less susceptible to outside interference as the
5 Ghz band is relatively unpopulated at present, while all sorts of noise
generating electronic equipment runs in the 2.4 Ghz band (cell phones,
microwave ovens for instance). 802.11a does have a shorter range, but in a
typical home setting it works just fine. I can't quite get out all the way
to the back of my property using 802.11a (about 150 feet and 2 walls away
from the router location), but it works just fine on the patio.
mike
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daytripper
02-01-2004, 12:01 PM
On Sun, 1 Feb 2004 11:55:03 -0500, "Michael" <nojunkmike@charterxxmi.pop>
wrote:
"Karolus des Reyches197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in messagenews:HIqdncyif7QBh4HdRVn-jw@comcast.com... "a" ? Is that not from the ancient past? I am using "b", not "g". "Noozer" <postmaster@127.0.0.1> wrote in message news:GPUSb.351162$X%5.172180@pd7tw2no... Because you are using Wireless and it still really isn't good enough to rely on. I still think 802.11a is the way to go.Not at all. 802.11a is a newer, faster standard. 802.11b and g both run inthe 2.4Ghz spectrum, while 802.11a runs in the 5Ghz spectrum. 802.11bmaximum speed is 11Mbps, 802.11g maximum is 22Mbps and 802.11a maximum speedis 54Mbps. 802.11a is also less susceptible to outside interference as the5 Ghz band is relatively unpopulated at present, while all sorts of noisegenerating electronic equipment runs in the 2.4 Ghz band (cell phones,microwave ovens for instance). 802.11a does have a shorter range, but in atypical home setting it works just fine. I can't quite get out all the wayto the back of my property using 802.11a (about 150 feet and 2 walls awayfrom the router location), but it works just fine on the patio.
G is "newer" than A. If that matters.
A *can* be the fastest. But
G has a peak throughput very close to A at *its* peak.
Hmm..."GAG"...Wonder if that means anything? ;-)
I have been using a Netgear 802.11a WAP with a pair of laptop cards for two
years come May. In my installation, in my environment, it works great.
Otoh, the Linksys A gear I tried first, failed miserably. Hence the Netgear...
/daytripper (YMMV - more than usual, I suspect)
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