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tommy
03-02-2005, 10:34 AM
Me and a friend that live across the street from each other want to
share my broadband connection. We both have wireless routers in our
houses with a few pc's on each along with a laptop. We want to keep
the routers in place for the firewall because I don't know who's
computers his has "slept" with and vise-versa.

Now, baring the signal strength issues (i'm more concerned with the
network engineering at this point), would it be as simple as hooking
up an ethernet to wireless bridge as is available from dlink:

http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=21

to the WAN connection on his router in order to receive my signal? If
the strength is not enough, and probably will not be, I'll hook up a
boost antenna.

One step further, is it possible to do this connection with the
wireless aspects our routers themselves?

Thanks in advance.

DLink Guru
03-12-2005, 11:13 PM
Hi, using just your routers wirless is not good for this job as the antenna
connection would have to be outside and would more then give you poor signal
inside the homes.

The best way to do this is to purchase to APs, one for each house, connect
high gain directional antennas and align them to each other and bridge your
two networks together.

I would not use the wireless devices you provided a link for though. I would
use something a bit more powerful like
http://www.dlink.com/products/?sec=0&pid=241 Your transfer speeds will be
alot better at range.

Robert....

<tommynospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1109788484.927721.5480@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... Me and a friend that live across the street from each other want to share my broadband connection. We both have wireless routers in our houses with a few pc's on each along with a laptop. We want to keep the routers in place for the firewall because I don't know who's computers his has "slept" with and vise-versa. Now, baring the signal strength issues (i'm more concerned with the network engineering at this point), would it be as simple as hooking up an ethernet to wireless bridge as is available from dlink: http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=21 to the WAN connection on his router in order to receive my signal? If the strength is not enough, and probably will not be, I'll hook up a boost antenna. One step further, is it possible to do this connection with the wireless aspects our routers themselves? Thanks in advance.

tommy
03-23-2005, 08:33 PM
I purchased and have been experimenting with the G810 and to this point
works very well. I successfully used it for a computer-router
connection so one computer can talk to the internet so I know the G810
settings are correct.

Our next step is to hook up the G810 to the WAN port of his router so
his router can aquire the IP address from my router in order to
establish internet connection. FOr some reason, though, his router
cannot establish an IP address through the G810. As a test, we hooked
up his WAN port to one of my regular router ports through a LONG
ethernet cable (at 2am holding our breathe every time a car passed by),
it establishes an IP and he can use internet -- no problem. But when
trying to do this through the G810, does not work.

Does he need a cross-over cable between the G810 and the WAN port of
his router? All we have are straight throughs.

DLink Guru wrote: Hi, using just your routers wirless is not good for this job as the
antenna connection would have to be outside and would more then give you poor
signal inside the homes. The best way to do this is to purchase to APs, one for each house,
connect high gain directional antennas and align them to each other and
bridge your two networks together. I would not use the wireless devices you provided a link for though.
I would use something a bit more powerful like http://www.dlink.com/products/?sec=0&pid=241 Your transfer speeds
will be alot better at range. Robert.... <tommynospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1109788484.927721.5480@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... Me and a friend that live across the street from each other want to share my broadband connection. We both have wireless routers in
our houses with a few pc's on each along with a laptop. We want to
keep the routers in place for the firewall because I don't know who's computers his has "slept" with and vise-versa. Now, baring the signal strength issues (i'm more concerned with the network engineering at this point), would it be as simple as
hooking up an ethernet to wireless bridge as is available from dlink: http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=21 to the WAN connection on his router in order to receive my signal?
If the strength is not enough, and probably will not be, I'll hook up
a boost antenna. One step further, is it possible to do this connection with the wireless aspects our routers themselves? Thanks in advance.

DLink Guru
03-23-2005, 09:02 PM
You would not want to add the G810 to the WAN port of the second router. You
would want to connect it to one of the ethernet ports of your second router.
Set the SSID on the G810 to match the router with the Internet connection
and make sure the SSID of the secon router SSID is set to something else.
Also make sure the two routers have different IP address's assigned to them
and the default gateway on all clients is the IP address of the router with
the internet connection.

See if that helps.

Robert.....

<tommynospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1111638800.006928.36280@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...I purchased and have been experimenting with the G810 and to this point works very well. I successfully used it for a computer-router connection so one computer can talk to the internet so I know the G810 settings are correct. Our next step is to hook up the G810 to the WAN port of his router so his router can aquire the IP address from my router in order to establish internet connection. FOr some reason, though, his router cannot establish an IP address through the G810. As a test, we hooked up his WAN port to one of my regular router ports through a LONG ethernet cable (at 2am holding our breathe every time a car passed by), it establishes an IP and he can use internet -- no problem. But when trying to do this through the G810, does not work. Does he need a cross-over cable between the G810 and the WAN port of his router? All we have are straight throughs. DLink Guru wrote: Hi, using just your routers wirless is not good for this job as the antenna connection would have to be outside and would more then give you poor signal inside the homes. The best way to do this is to purchase to APs, one for each house, connect high gain directional antennas and align them to each other and bridge your two networks together. I would not use the wireless devices you provided a link for though. I would use something a bit more powerful like http://www.dlink.com/products/?sec=0&pid=241 Your transfer speeds will be alot better at range. Robert.... <tommynospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1109788484.927721.5480@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... Me and a friend that live across the street from each other want to share my broadband connection. We both have wireless routers in our houses with a few pc's on each along with a laptop. We want to keep the routers in place for the firewall because I don't know who's computers his has "slept" with and vise-versa. Now, baring the signal strength issues (i'm more concerned with the network engineering at this point), would it be as simple as hooking up an ethernet to wireless bridge as is available from dlink: http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=21 to the WAN connection on his router in order to receive my signal? If the strength is not enough, and probably will not be, I'll hook up a boost antenna. One step further, is it possible to do this connection with the wireless aspects our routers themselves? Thanks in advance.

tommy
03-24-2005, 07:28 PM
Thanks for the reply, Robert.

We want to connect it to the WAN port so we can take advantage of the
firewall. When you say "i would not want to", I'm curious as to why.
Do you mean we can't due to technical issues or do you mean we
shouldn't? But you're right, I never thought of connecting it to a
port on the router which would work relatively easily but still want to
try the WAN port for the firewall.

Thanks.

DLink Guru wrote: You would not want to add the G810 to the WAN port of the second
router. You would want to connect it to one of the ethernet ports of your second
router. Set the SSID on the G810 to match the router with the Internet
connection and make sure the SSID of the secon router SSID is set to something
else. Also make sure the two routers have different IP address's assigned
to them and the default gateway on all clients is the IP address of the
router with the internet connection. See if that helps. Robert..... <tommynospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1111638800.006928.36280@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...I purchased and have been experimenting with the G810 and to this
point works very well. I successfully used it for a computer-router connection so one computer can talk to the internet so I know the
G810 settings are correct. Our next step is to hook up the G810 to the WAN port of his router
so his router can aquire the IP address from my router in order to establish internet connection. FOr some reason, though, his router cannot establish an IP address through the G810. As a test, we
hooked up his WAN port to one of my regular router ports through a LONG ethernet cable (at 2am holding our breathe every time a car passed
by), it establishes an IP and he can use internet -- no problem. But
when trying to do this through the G810, does not work. Does he need a cross-over cable between the G810 and the WAN port
of his router? All we have are straight throughs. DLink Guru wrote: Hi, using just your routers wirless is not good for this job as
the antenna connection would have to be outside and would more then give you
poor signal inside the homes. The best way to do this is to purchase to APs, one for each house, connect high gain directional antennas and align them to each other and bridge your two networks together. I would not use the wireless devices you provided a link for
though. I would use something a bit more powerful like http://www.dlink.com/products/?sec=0&pid=241 Your transfer speeds will be alot better at range. Robert.... <tommynospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1109788484.927721.5480@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > Me and a friend that live across the street from each other want
to > share my broadband connection. We both have wireless routers in our > houses with a few pc's on each along with a laptop. We want to keep > the routers in place for the firewall because I don't know who's > computers his has "slept" with and vise-versa. > > Now, baring the signal strength issues (i'm more concerned with
the > network engineering at this point), would it be as simple as hooking > up an ethernet to wireless bridge as is available from dlink: > > http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=21 > > to the WAN connection on his router in order to receive my
signal? If > the strength is not enough, and probably will not be, I'll hook
up a > boost antenna. > > One step further, is it possible to do this connection with the > wireless aspects our routers themselves? > > Thanks in advance. >

DLink Guru
03-24-2005, 08:08 PM
If you connect it to the WAN port you probably will not get internet
connection to the second network as the gateway will not be called correctly
for the second routers computers.

Robert....
<tommynospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1111721320.669182.267110@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... Thanks for the reply, Robert. We want to connect it to the WAN port so we can take advantage of the firewall. When you say "i would not want to", I'm curious as to why. Do you mean we can't due to technical issues or do you mean we shouldn't? But you're right, I never thought of connecting it to a port on the router which would work relatively easily but still want to try the WAN port for the firewall. Thanks. DLink Guru wrote: You would not want to add the G810 to the WAN port of the second router. You would want to connect it to one of the ethernet ports of your second router. Set the SSID on the G810 to match the router with the Internet connection and make sure the SSID of the secon router SSID is set to something else. Also make sure the two routers have different IP address's assigned to them and the default gateway on all clients is the IP address of the router with the internet connection. See if that helps. Robert..... <tommynospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1111638800.006928.36280@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...I purchased and have been experimenting with the G810 and to this point works very well. I successfully used it for a computer-router connection so one computer can talk to the internet so I know the G810 settings are correct. Our next step is to hook up the G810 to the WAN port of his router so his router can aquire the IP address from my router in order to establish internet connection. FOr some reason, though, his router cannot establish an IP address through the G810. As a test, we hooked up his WAN port to one of my regular router ports through a LONG ethernet cable (at 2am holding our breathe every time a car passed by), it establishes an IP and he can use internet -- no problem. But when trying to do this through the G810, does not work. Does he need a cross-over cable between the G810 and the WAN port of his router? All we have are straight throughs. DLink Guru wrote:> Hi, using just your routers wirless is not good for this job as the antenna> connection would have to be outside and would more then give you poor signal> inside the homes.>> The best way to do this is to purchase to APs, one for each house, connect> high gain directional antennas and align them to each other and bridge your> two networks together.>> I would not use the wireless devices you provided a link for though. I would> use something a bit more powerful like> http://www.dlink.com/products/?sec=0&pid=241 Your transfer speeds will be> alot better at range.>> Robert....>> <tommynospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message> news:1109788484.927721.5480@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...> > Me and a friend that live across the street from each other want to> > share my broadband connection. We both have wireless routers in our> > houses with a few pc's on each along with a laptop. We want to keep> > the routers in place for the firewall because I don't know who's> > computers his has "slept" with and vise-versa.> >> > Now, baring the signal strength issues (i'm more concerned with the> > network engineering at this point), would it be as simple as hooking> > up an ethernet to wireless bridge as is available from dlink:> >> > http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=21> >> > to the WAN connection on his router in order to receive my signal? If> > the strength is not enough, and probably will not be, I'll hook up a> > boost antenna.> >> > One step further, is it possible to do this connection with the> > wireless aspects our routers themselves?> >> > Thanks in advance.> >

tommy
03-25-2005, 08:31 AM
I don't understand why it works when it is hardwired to the WAN port
but not when I use the G810 wirelessly. I'll do a little more
research. It has to work.

Hey, I really appreciate all the help you have provided.

One last problem. When I changed the G810 to use Dynamic IP, I lost
all communication with the G810. Tried to scan for it using a scan
program but could not find it. I ultimately had to reset it and had to
upload firmware. (thankfully it retained enough intelligence to prompt
me for a firmware file.) I'm not sure why this happened but when it
uses DHCP to obtain dynamic ip, does it use the ethernet side or the
wireless side to find DHCP? If it can't find a DHCP server, what IP
does it default to?

Thanks again.

DLink Guru wrote: If you connect it to the WAN port you probably will not get internet connection to the second network as the gateway will not be called
correctly for the second routers computers. Robert.... <tommynospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1111721320.669182.267110@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... Thanks for the reply, Robert. We want to connect it to the WAN port so we can take advantage of
the firewall. When you say "i would not want to", I'm curious as to
why. Do you mean we can't due to technical issues or do you mean we shouldn't? But you're right, I never thought of connecting it to a port on the router which would work relatively easily but still
want to try the WAN port for the firewall. Thanks. DLink Guru wrote: You would not want to add the G810 to the WAN port of the second router. You would want to connect it to one of the ethernet ports of your
second router. Set the SSID on the G810 to match the router with the Internet connection and make sure the SSID of the secon router SSID is set to
something else. Also make sure the two routers have different IP address's
assigned to them and the default gateway on all clients is the IP address of the router with the internet connection. See if that helps. Robert..... <tommynospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1111638800.006928.36280@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... >I purchased and have been experimenting with the G810 and to this point > works very well. I successfully used it for a computer-router > connection so one computer can talk to the internet so I know
the G810 > settings are correct. > > Our next step is to hook up the G810 to the WAN port of his
router so > his router can aquire the IP address from my router in order to > establish internet connection. FOr some reason, though, his
router > cannot establish an IP address through the G810. As a test, we hooked > up his WAN port to one of my regular router ports through a LONG > ethernet cable (at 2am holding our breathe every time a car
passed by), > it establishes an IP and he can use internet -- no problem. But when > trying to do this through the G810, does not work. > > Does he need a cross-over cable between the G810 and the WAN
port of > his router? All we have are straight throughs. > > DLink Guru wrote: >> Hi, using just your routers wirless is not good for this job as the > antenna >> connection would have to be outside and would more then give
you poor > signal >> inside the homes. >> >> The best way to do this is to purchase to APs, one for each
house, > connect >> high gain directional antennas and align them to each other and > bridge your >> two networks together. >> >> I would not use the wireless devices you provided a link for though. > I would >> use something a bit more powerful like >> http://www.dlink.com/products/?sec=0&pid=241 Your transfer
speeds > will be >> alot better at range. >> >> Robert.... >> >> <tommynospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:1109788484.927721.5480@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... >> > Me and a friend that live across the street from each other
want to >> > share my broadband connection. We both have wireless routers
in > our >> > houses with a few pc's on each along with a laptop. We want
to > keep >> > the routers in place for the firewall because I don't know
who's >> > computers his has "slept" with and vise-versa. >> > >> > Now, baring the signal strength issues (i'm more concerned
with the >> > network engineering at this point), would it be as simple as > hooking >> > up an ethernet to wireless bridge as is available from dlink: >> > >> > http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=21 >> > >> > to the WAN connection on his router in order to receive my signal? > If >> > the strength is not enough, and probably will not be, I'll
hook up > a >> > boost antenna. >> > >> > One step further, is it possible to do this connection with
the >> > wireless aspects our routers themselves? >> > >> > Thanks in advance. >> > >


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