Booting to monitor prompt problem

[JenT]

Hello
I recently aquired a color next cube.  The problem is that I can't get
to monitor prompt so I can boot into single user mode.  When it boots up
I get the testing system message and then it says loading from network. 
I tried using alt command ~ after the testing message disappears to get
to the prompt, but nothing happens and it just goes on to loading from
network message.  I also tried command ~ as well as control ~.  I know
the alt, comand and ~ keys work because I hooked the keyboard (adb with
long command bar on bottom. I only see one ~ as well.) to a mac and
they worked.  Also the Next keyboard power key works on the cube.  The
keyboard is plugged into a soundbox and the soundbox is plugged into the
cube with a long DB 19 NeXT cable.  Does anyone have any advice on what
may be going on?  Am I just being dumb? I don't know much about the cube
as it came from a college surplus sale.  It didn't come with any manuals
or system disks.  It does have a 1 gig hard drive.  I would appreciate
any suggestions.  I checked out the FAQ, but didn't see anything
specific about my problem.  Could it be a hardware problem?  I do have
an old Sun external hard drive (2 gig) and Sun external cd rom drive and
the proper cables to hook it to the Next.  I don't know if I could rig
something to get it to boot off those somehow.  Thanks in advance for
any help.     

[Dan Moore]

JenT <jmt788@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<jmt788-50976D.18120427072003@news.newsgroups.st>... Hello I recently aquired a color next cube. The problem is that I can't get to monitor prompt so I can boot into single user mode. When it boots up I get the testing system message and then it says loading from network. I tried using alt command ~ after the testing message disappears to get to the prompt, but nothing happens and it just goes on to loading from network message. I also tried command ~ as well as control ~. I know the alt, comand and ~ keys work because I hooked the keyboard (adb with long command bar on bottom. I only see one ~ as well.) to a mac and they worked. Also the Next keyboard power key works on the cube. The keyboard is plugged into a soundbox and the soundbox is plugged into the cube with a long DB 19 NeXT cable. Does anyone have any advice on what may be going on? Am I just being dumb? I don't know much about the cube as it came from a college surplus sale. It didn't come with any manuals or system disks. It does have a 1 gig hard drive. I would appreciate any suggestions. I checked out the FAQ, but didn't see anything specific about my problem. Could it be a hardware problem? I do have an old Sun external hard drive (2 gig) and Sun external cd rom drive and the proper cables to hook it to the Next. I don't know if I could rig something to get it to boot off those somehow. Thanks in advance for any help.


I think on the ADB ones it is Command-Alt-~ or maybe Command-Alt-Alt-~
but I don't actually have any ADB systems setup right now.

If neither of those works, then there are a number of other possible
problems, such as using an ADB keyboard (and, in your case, soundbox)
on a non-ADB compatible system. I've never actually used a Dimension
cube (which this must be if it is actually a "color cube") so I'm not
sure about other possible problems...

[David Evans]

In article <ef813a3c.0307272152.7f45b51b@posting.google.com>,
Dan Moore <dan+googlegroups@moore.cx> wrote:If neither of those works, then there are a number of other possibleproblems, such as using an ADB keyboard (and, in your case, soundbox)on a non-ADB compatible system.

That's very possible. Unless the cube has the Turbo chipset then you
aren't going to get anywhere with ADB. Does the cube CPU board have two
large Fujitsu ASICs?
I've never actually used a Dimensioncube (which this must be if it is actually a "color cube") so I'm notsure about other possible problems...

There's nothing exotic about an ND cube in regards to booting. If stuff
shows up on the screen then the ND's RAM is OK, the NBICs are in good shape,
and you should be all set.

--
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Ph.D. Candidate, Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/
University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer
Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual

[Dan Moore]

dfevans@bcr10.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) wrote in message news:<bg3crv$rku$1@tabloid.uwaterloo.ca>... In article <ef813a3c.0307272152.7f45b51b@posting.google.com>, Dan Moore <dan+googlegroups@moore.cx> wrote:If neither of those works, then there are a number of other possibleproblems, such as using an ADB keyboard (and, in your case, soundbox)on a non-ADB compatible system. That's very possible. Unless the cube has the Turbo chipset then you aren't going to get anywhere with ADB. Does the cube CPU board have two large Fujitsu ASICs?

Or: Does the motherboard have 72-pin SIMM (either 4 or 8) slots or 16
30-pin slots? At least that is how one would tell with slabs. Both
the 33mhz and 25mhz '040 slabs that use the Turbo chipset have 72-pin
slots. The 33mhz Turbo cube MBs I've seen have 4 also, but I don't
actually know if there were any 25mhz Turbo cube MBs...

[JenT]

In article <bg606g$5mb$1@tabloid.uwaterloo.ca>,
dfevans@bcr10.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) wrote:
In article <ef813a3c.0307282237.45fe443b@posting.google.com>, Dan Moore <dan+googlegroups@moore.cx> wrote:Or: Does the motherboard have 72-pin SIMM (either 4 or 8) slots or 1630-pin slots? At least that is how one would tell with slabs. Boththe 33mhz and 25mhz '040 slabs that use the Turbo chipset have 72-pinslots. The 33mhz Turbo cube MBs I've seen have 4 also, but I don'tactually know if there were any 25mhz Turbo cube MBs... If there were 25MHz "Turbo" boards then they would presumably also use four 72-pin sockets. All cubes without the Turbo chipset have 16 30-pin sockets.


The motherboard has 4 72-pinn SIMM slots. I just got another keyboard
and will try it out tonight. I will also look at the motherboard more
closely and write down the numbers off of it and report back. Thanks.

[Andreas Berger]

David Evans schrieb:
In article <jmt788-67AA12.13413129072003@news.newsgroups.st>, JenT <jmt788@yahoo.com> wrote:The motherboard has 4 72-pinn SIMM slots. I just got anotherkeyboard and will try it out tonight. I will also look at themotherboard more closely and write down the numbers off of it andreport back. Thanks.
If it has four 74-pin sockets the it's a Turbo-chipset board. You're obviously using an ADB Sound Box or you wouldn't be able to plug in the keyboard but are you sure you have an ADB Sound Box->computer cable? What's its part number?

Looks like the same problem i have. Only the green power knob works on
my turbo-board with an ADB setup.
Unfortunatly my cable from Cube to Soundbox has a lower number (Part
150?) than the suggested one wich will work with ADB.

--
regards, Andreas

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[Dan Moore]

"Andreas Berger" <a_berger@despammed.com> wrote in message news:<bg6psl$kru98$1@ID-134005.news.uni-berlin.de>... David Evans schrieb: In article <jmt788-67AA12.13413129072003@news.newsgroups.st>, JenT <jmt788@yahoo.com> wrote:The motherboard has 4 72-pinn SIMM slots. I just got anotherkeyboard and will try it out tonight. I will also look at themotherboard more closely and write down the numbers off of it andreport back. Thanks. If it has four 74-pin sockets the it's a Turbo-chipset board. You're obviously using an ADB Sound Box or you wouldn't be able to plug in the keyboard but are you sure you have an ADB Sound Box->computer cable? What's its part number? Looks like the same problem i have. Only the green power knob works on my turbo-board with an ADB setup.
Unfortunatly my cable from Cube to Soundbox has a lower number (Part 150?) than the suggested one wich will work with ADB.

Yup, that's the same thing I see happening when putting a non-ADB
compat cable in an otherwise ADB setup. Power button works, but
nothing else does.

[JenT]

In article <bg6c45$c3b$1@tabloid.uwaterloo.ca>,
dfevans@bcr10.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) wrote:
In article <jmt788-67AA12.13413129072003@news.newsgroups.st>, JenT <jmt788@yahoo.com> wrote:The motherboard has 4 72-pinn SIMM slots. I just got another keyboardand will try it out tonight. I will also look at the motherboard moreclosely and write down the numbers off of it and report back. Thanks. If it has four 74-pin sockets the it's a Turbo-chipset board. You're obviously using an ADB Sound Box or you wouldn't be able to plug in the keyboard but are you sure you have an ADB Sound Box->computer cable? What's its part number?

I have two different db 19 cables

the long one has part number 4534.00
the smaller one has part number 4535.00

the keyboards are both n8001-3658
soundbox is n4004a (says for this model cube on it)
mouse n8003
cube is n1000a
monitor is n4006

The second keyboard didn't make a difference. I tried different memory
and I still get the same results. Maybe I am not holding the keys down
in the correct way. Usually hold alt and command down and press ~ when
testing screen dissappears. Tried holding down both alt keys as well.
Any Ideas?