Q: How to speed up NeXTstation color

[Georgios Dimitroglou Rizell]

Hi,
I've acquired a NeXTstation color, the one with 8 simm-slots. I wonder
what is the most worthwhile way of increasing performance. Right now
OmniWeb 3 takes forever to load. I've got 20mb ram (max 32) and a 256mb
harddrive. Can you replace the CPU? Will a faster harddrive be worth it?
The drive seems very old.

Please give me some hints.

Cheers
Georgios

[David Evans]

In article <pan.2004.03.30.18.36.59.812283@student.uu.se>,
Georgios Dimitroglou Rizell <gedi8573@student.uu.se> wrote:I've acquired a NeXTstation color, the one with 8 simm-slots. I wonderwhat is the most worthwhile way of increasing performance. Right nowOmniWeb 3 takes forever to load. I've got 20mb ram (max 32) and a 256mbharddrive. Can you replace the CPU? Will a faster harddrive be worth it?The drive seems very old.

The main ways are:

1. Put in a fast disk, but be sure that it doesn't overheat.

2. Max out the RAM. This is really the killer on OPENSTEP apps like
OW 3 since they pull in all the OPENSTEP shared libs. This means
that you have the OS and NS shared libs in memory at once and, if
you switch back and forth between OS apps and NS apps (like Workspace)
then all the shared libs want to be in core.

Other than that there's not a lot you can do. I suppose you could hunt
down a Pyro, but they're hard to find.

--
David Evans dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca
Ph.D. Candidate, Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/
University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer
Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual

[Pascal Bourguignon]

Georgios Dimitroglou Rizell <gedi8573@student.uu.se> writes:
Hi, I've acquired a NeXTstation color, the one with 8 simm-slots. I wonder what is the most worthwhile way of increasing performance. Right now OmniWeb 3 takes forever to load. I've got 20mb ram (max 32) and a 256mb harddrive. Can you replace the CPU? Will a faster harddrive be worth it? The drive seems very old.

More RAM.
Better Hard Drive.

Then, OmniWeb IS slow on these machines...


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[Georgios Dimitroglou Rizell]

Too bad my memory is only upgradeable to 32mb according to the peanuts
faq. But I'll put in as much as I can.
What drives can I use? I found a cheap 2gb scsi-ii drive. Will that do, or
is it too large?

Cheers


On Tue, 30 Mar 2004 18:43:20 +0000, David Evans wrote:
The main ways are: 1. Put in a fast disk, but be sure that it doesn't overheat. 2. Max out the RAM. This is really the killer on OPENSTEP apps like OW 3 since they pull in all the OPENSTEP shared libs. This means that you have the OS and NS shared libs in memory at once and, if you switch back and forth between OS apps and NS apps (like Workspace) then all the shared libs want to be in core. Other than that there's not a lot you can do. I suppose you could hunt down a Pyro, but they're hard to find.

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[David Evans]

In article <pan.2004.03.30.19.32.17.735598@student.uu.se>,
Georgios Dimitroglou Rizell <gedi8573@student.uu.se> wrote:What drives can I use? I found a cheap 2gb scsi-ii drive. Will that do, oris it too large?

That should be fine.

--
David Evans dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca
Ph.D. Candidate, Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/
University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer
Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual

[James W. McKelvey]

David Evans wrote: In article <pan.2004.03.30.18.36.59.812283@student.uu.se>, Georgios Dimitroglou Rizell <gedi8573@student.uu.se> wrote:I've acquired a NeXTstation color, the one with 8 simm-slots. I wonderwhat is the most worthwhile way of increasing performance. Right nowOmniWeb 3 takes forever to load. I've got 20mb ram (max 32) and a 256mbharddrive. Can you replace the CPU? Will a faster harddrive be worth it?The drive seems very old. The main ways are: 1. Put in a fast disk, but be sure that it doesn't overheat. 2. Max out the RAM. This is really the killer on OPENSTEP apps like OW 3 since they pull in all the OPENSTEP shared libs. This means that you have the OS and NS shared libs in memory at once and, if you switch back and forth between OS apps and NS apps (like Workspace) then all the shared libs want to be in core. Other than that there's not a lot you can do. I suppose you could hunt down a Pyro, but they're hard to find.

I've actually got a Pyro, but it doesn't work with my Cube. That doesn't
mean it's bad, since they were known to not run on every NeXT, but it's
hard to sell such an iffy device.

--
What portion in the world can the artist have
Who has awakened from the common dream
But dissipation and despair?
-- William Butler Yeats

[David Finton]

"James W. McKelvey" <mckelvey@maskull.com> writes:
David Evans wrote: In article <pan.2004.03.30.18.36.59.812283@student.uu.se>, Georgios Dimitroglou Rizell <gedi8573@student.uu.se> wrote:I've acquired a NeXTstation color, the one with 8 simm-slots. I wonderwhat is the most worthwhile way of increasing performance. Right nowOmniWeb 3 takes forever to load. I've got 20mb ram (max 32) and a 256mbharddrive. Can you replace the CPU? Will a faster harddrive be worth it?The drive seems very old.
The main ways are: 1. Put in a fast disk, but be sure that it doesn't overheat.

The faster hard drive does help. Some of us even went so far as to
set up the swapfile on a second (fast) drive. The main gotchas are
that you need a 50-pin SCSI-2 drive (or a converter), and you need to
be careful about heat dissipation. I and a friend both had color slabs
(mine a turbo) with motherboards that failed, and we think heat could
have been the cause. One solution I tried for a while was having the
hard drive in an external case; then you can get as big and hot a drive
as you wish. If you do have it inside the computer, you might want to
look for the power consumption specs for your drive and make sure it
doesn't consume more watts than the original drives. For example, many
NeXT computers originally shipped with the 400 MB Seagate ST1480N;
according to Seagate, those drives typically consume 9 watts, up to a
max of 15 watts (see
http://www.seagate.com/support/disc/specs/scsi/st1480n.html
for more specs, including performance).
2. Max out the RAM. This is really the killer on OPENSTEP apps like

Yup!
Other than that there's not a lot you can do. I suppose you could hunt down a Pyro, but they're hard to find.
I've actually got a Pyro, but it doesn't work with my Cube. That doesn'tmean it's bad, since they were known to not run on every NeXT, but it'shard to sell such an iffy device.

I have a Pyro-Dimension Cube, with the second-to-last Pyro that Sam
Goldberger sold. I shipped my motherboard and Dimension board to him
so he could install the Pyro and make sure everything was working fine
with my hardware. It's quite a nice system. :-)


--David Finton

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"Georgios Dimitroglou Rizell" <gedi8573@student.uu.se> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.03.30.18.36.59.812283@student.uu.se... Hi, I've acquired a NeXTstation color, the one with 8 simm-slots. I wonder what is the most worthwhile way of increasing performance. Right now OmniWeb 3 takes forever to load. I've got 20mb ram (max 32) and a 256mb harddrive. Can you replace the CPU? Will a faster harddrive be worth it? The drive seems very old. Please give me some hints. Cheers Georgios