Need a copy of Configure.app (OPENSTEP 4.2 for NeXT hardware)

[Georgios Dimitroglou Rizell]

My Configure.app for OPENSTEP 4.2/NeXT is broken. Can someone please mail
me a copy?
I have a CD that says "OPENSTEP 4.2 NeXT/INTEL" (not original). The cd
does indeed contain the intel version. But there's no such thing as a
combined next-intel openstep cd, is there?

Regards,
Georgios

[Pascal Bourguignon]

Georgios Dimitroglou Rizell <gedi8573@student.uu.se> writes:
My Configure.app for OPENSTEP 4.2/NeXT is broken. Can someone please mail me a copy? I have a CD that says "OPENSTEP 4.2 NeXT/INTEL" (not original). The cd does indeed contain the intel version. But there's no such thing as a combined next-intel openstep cd, is there?

Yes. NeXTSTEP 3.* and OPENSTEP 4.* were distribued on CDROMs that
contained fat binaries for both Motorola and Intel, and both kernels.
It installed only one kernel on the hard disk, but it could install
all the programs and libraries fat.

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[Georgios Dimitroglou Rizell]

But when I mount the disc in linux, all I see is one directory tree with
/NextAdmin etc etc. Where do I find the binaries for the 68k?

On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 12:12:24 +0200, Pascal Bourguignon wrote:
Georgios Dimitroglou Rizell <gedi8573@student.uu.se> writes: My Configure.app for OPENSTEP 4.2/NeXT is broken. Can someone please mail me a copy? I have a CD that says "OPENSTEP 4.2 NeXT/INTEL" (not original). The cd does indeed contain the intel version. But there's no such thing as a combined next-intel openstep cd, is there? Yes. NeXTSTEP 3.* and OPENSTEP 4.* were distribued on CDROMs that contained fat binaries for both Motorola and Intel, and both kernels. It installed only one kernel on the hard disk, but it could install all the programs and libraries fat.

[Pascal Bourguignon]

Georgios Dimitroglou Rizell <gedi8573@student.uu.se> writes: On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 12:12:24 +0200, Pascal Bourguignon wrote: Georgios Dimitroglou Rizell <gedi8573@student.uu.se> writes: My Configure.app for OPENSTEP 4.2/NeXT is broken. Can someone please mail me a copy? I have a CD that says "OPENSTEP 4.2 NeXT/INTEL" (not original). The cd does indeed contain the intel version. But there's no such thing as a combined next-intel openstep cd, is there? Yes. NeXTSTEP 3.* and OPENSTEP 4.* were distribued on CDROMs that contained fat binaries for both Motorola and Intel, and both kernels. It installed only one kernel on the hard disk, but it could install all the programs and libraries fat. But when I mount the disc in linux, all I see is one directory tree with /NextAdmin etc etc. Where do I find the binaries for the 68k?

The applications and tools ARE FAT BINARIES!

That means that the executable files found in the application packages
(the directories whose name ends in ".app") contain BOTH Intel code
AND Motorola code.

Run file(1) or otool(1) on them.

There is a tool named lipo(1) that copies the executable keeping only
a subset of the target binaries.


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In <pan.2004.03.31.10.50.43.459562@student.uu.se> Georgios Dimitroglou
Rizell wrote: But when I mount the disc in linux, all I see is one directory tree
with /NextAdmin etc etc. Where do I find the binaries for the 68k? On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 12:12:24 +0200, Pascal Bourguignon wrote: Georgios Dimitroglou Rizell <gedi8573@student.uu.se> writes: My Configure.app for OPENSTEP 4.2/NeXT is broken. Can someone please
mail me a copy? I have a CD that says "OPENSTEP 4.2 NeXT/INTEL" (not original). The
cd does indeed contain the intel version. But there's no such thing as
a combined next-intel openstep cd, is there? Yes. NeXTSTEP 3.* and OPENSTEP 4.* were distribued on CDROMs that contained fat binaries for both Motorola and Intel, and both kernels. It installed only one kernel on the hard disk, but it could install all the programs and libraries fat.

Yes, these are the Linux guys... The binaries are compiled for multiple
machine types, meaning they are running on both (or more) architectures.
Sounds impressive, but is not so extraordinary on the second glance. You
will find both binaries with additional information where the code starts
in the binary. You can dig out the info with lipo e.g.

Example in /NextAdmin/Apps/Configure.app (I have all my admin apps moved
to ~/Apps, seemed more consistent to me):
yusei> lipo -info Configure
Architectures in the fat file: Configure are: m68k i386 sparc

This is the Openstep one. Intel-NeXT look like this:

yusei> lipo -info Configure
Non-fat file: Configure is architecture: i386

Henry
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[David Evans]

In article <pan.2004.03.31.09.31.44.44051@student.uu.se>,
Georgios Dimitroglou Rizell <gedi8573@student.uu.se> wrote:My Configure.app for OPENSTEP 4.2/NeXT is broken. Can someone please mailme a copy?

DriverKit isn't used on black hardware, so there's no working
Configure.app to run.

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[Georgios Dimitroglou Rizell]

That's nice.

Thanks for the info everyone!

On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 11:44:52 +0000, Henry wrote:
In <pan.2004.03.31.10.50.43.459562@student.uu.se> Georgios Dimitroglou Rizell wrote: But when I mount the disc in linux, all I see is one directory tree with /NextAdmin etc etc. Where do I find the binaries for the 68k? On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 12:12:24 +0200, Pascal Bourguignon wrote: Georgios Dimitroglou Rizell <gedi8573@student.uu.se> writes:> My Configure.app for OPENSTEP 4.2/NeXT is broken. Can someone please mail> me a copy?> I have a CD that says "OPENSTEP 4.2 NeXT/INTEL" (not original). The cd> does indeed contain the intel version. But there's no such thing as a> combined next-intel openstep cd, is there? Yes. NeXTSTEP 3.* and OPENSTEP 4.* were distribued on CDROMs that contained fat binaries for both Motorola and Intel, and both kernels. It installed only one kernel on the hard disk, but it could install all the programs and libraries fat. Yes, these are the Linux guys... The binaries are compiled for multiple machine types, meaning they are running on both (or more) architectures. Sounds impressive, but is not so extraordinary on the second glance. You will find both binaries with additional information where the code starts in the binary. You can dig out the info with lipo e.g. Example in /NextAdmin/Apps/Configure.app (I have all my admin apps moved to ~/Apps, seemed more consistent to me): yusei> lipo -info Configure Architectures in the fat file: Configure are: m68k i386 sparc This is the Openstep one. Intel-NeXT look like this: yusei> lipo -info Configure Non-fat file: Configure is architecture: i386 Henry

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"Georgios Dimitroglou Rizell" <gedi8573@student.uu.se> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.03.31.09.31.44.44051@student.uu.se... My Configure.app for OPENSTEP 4.2/NeXT is broken. Can someone please mail me a copy? I have a CD that says "OPENSTEP 4.2 NeXT/INTEL" (not original). The cd does indeed contain the intel version. But there's no such thing as a combined next-intel openstep cd, is there? Regards, Georgios