Can't import past Web Connect Files

[Rick Kasten]

I have transactions in my statements from previous months that cleared my
bank, but they are not in my Quicken registry. If I download activity from
my account that includes the missing transactions and import that QFX file,
Quicken does nothing. Hence, my account balance is always off. How do I
get Quicken to recognize that fact that I have transactions in the QFX file
that are not in the register?

[Bob K]

I found that if you are not signed-up at the financial institution and run
the Quicken download, it will appear as if something is happening but there
is no download. I don't know if this is your problem but you do have to
officially sign-up with your financial institution for Quicken download in
particular (not just online banking with manual download).

Bob




"Rick Kasten" <rkasten@NOSPAM.charter.net> wrote in message
news:1002ihos031hc08@corp.supernews.com...
| I have transactions in my statements from previous months that cleared my
| bank, but they are not in my Quicken registry. If I download activity
from
| my account that includes the missing transactions and import that QFX
file,
| Quicken does nothing. Hence, my account balance is always off. How do I
| get Quicken to recognize that fact that I have transactions in the QFX
file
| that are not in the register?
|
|

[Han Broekman]

"Rick Kasten" <rkasten@NOSPAM.charter.net> wrote in
news:1002ihos031hc08@corp.supernews.com:
I have transactions in my statements from previous months that cleared my bank, but they are not in my Quicken registry. If I download activity from my account that includes the missing transactions and import that QFX file, Quicken does nothing. Hence, my account balance is always off. How do I get Quicken to recognize that fact that I have transactions in the QFX file that are not in the register?
Webconnect files are not complete lists of tranasactions, but contain
information to download the data from the FI. I don't know how you're
trying this, but make sure you're on-line. It also may be possible that
these OFX/QFX files "expire" or get superseded by the next one; I just
don't know.



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Best regards
Han
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[John Pollard]

Han wrote:
"Rick Kasten" <rkasten@NOSPAM.charter.net> wrote in news:1002ihos031hc08@corp.supernews.com: I have transactions in my statements from previous months that cleared my bank, but they are not in my Quicken registry. If I download activity from my account that includes the missing transactions and import that QFX file, Quicken does nothing. Hence, my account balance is always off. How do I get Quicken to recognize that fact that I have transactions in the QFX file that are not in the register?
Webconnect files are not complete lists of tranasactions, but contain information to download the data from the FI.

My own observations suggest that this is not true. In my QFX files, I find
all the information necessary to create Quicken transactions. I can not say
whether Quicken will require the ability to connect to the fi over the
internet in order to process that file, but the data is in the QFX file.
I don't know how you're trying this, but make sure you're on-line. It also may be possible that these OFX/QFX files "expire" or get superseded by the next one; I just don't know.

[John Pollard]

Rick Kasten wrote: I have transactions in my statements from previous months that cleared my bank, but they are not in my Quicken registry. If I download activity from my account that includes the missing transactions and import that QFX file, Quicken does nothing. Hence, my account balance is always off. How do I get Quicken to recognize that fact that I have transactions in the QFX file that are not in the register?

Some information that might be useful is missing from your post. Your
version of Quicken and the actual steps in sequence that you took might shed
some more light.

I believe that Quicken has a record of what transactions you already
downloaded, and if it (and/or the fi) think that you have already downloaded
the transactions that are "missing", they won't be downloaded again.

How did you determine that the "missing" transactions were in the QFX file?
Did you deduce it because you specified a date range for the download that
would have included the "missing" transactions (not a reliable way to prove
that the "missing" transactions are in the QFX file); or did you actually
look in the QFX file itself?

If you are certain that the transactions you want are in the QFX file, you
could try disabling access to the online account and re-enabling it. I have
no idea whether this will solve the problem, or even if there is a problem,
but I think it is worth a try.

[Han Broekman]

"John Pollard" <invalid_address@noisp.com> wrote in
news:0mdMb.24554$qC.3384@bignews3.bellsouth.net:

Top-posted for simplicity.

So my observations are only for OFX files?

Han wrote: "Rick Kasten" <rkasten@NOSPAM.charter.net> wrote in news:1002ihos031hc08@corp.supernews.com: I have transactions in my statements from previous months that cleared my bank, but they are not in my Quicken registry. If I download activity from my account that includes the missing transactions and import that QFX file, Quicken does nothing. Hence, my account balance is always off. How do I get Quicken to recognize that fact that I have transactions in the QFX file that are not in the register? Webconnect files are not complete lists of tranasactions, but contain information to download the data from the FI. My own observations suggest that this is not true. In my QFX files, I find all the information necessary to create Quicken transactions. I can not say whether Quicken will require the ability to connect to the fi over the internet in order to process that file, but the data is in the QFX file. I don't know how you're trying this, but make sure you're on-line. It also may be possible that these OFX/QFX files "expire" or get superseded by the next one; I just don't know.



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Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

[John Pollard]

Han wrote: Top-posted for simplicity. So my observations are only for OFX files?

I have only looked at one OFX file and it appears to me that it also
contains all the data necessary to construct Quicken transactions.

As I said though, I am not disputing the notion that Quicken (or Money) may
require that you have an internet connection to the fi (or to Intuit) in
order to process an OFX/QFX file. Allowing you to import just any old QFX
file might be more freedom than Intuit is willing to offer its users. :(

[Han Broekman]

"John Pollard" <invalid_address@noisp.com> wrote in
news:%YdMb.7052$v16.1112@bignews5.bellsouth.net:
Han wrote: Top-posted for simplicity. So my observations are only for OFX files? I have only looked at one OFX file and it appears to me that it also contains all the data necessary to construct Quicken transactions. As I said though, I am not disputing the notion that Quicken (or Money) may require that you have an internet connection to the fi (or to Intuit) in order to process an OFX/QFX file. Allowing you to import just any old QFX file might be more freedom than Intuit is willing to offer its users. :(
It seemed to me that there is a rather extended conversation going on
when I open an OFX file from within Quicken. I don't have the
wherewithall or inclination to go and log each byte, though.

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Best regards
Han
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[Rick Kasten]

I have Quicken 2003 Premier R3. From my checking account register, I select
Update Now to open the browser. I have to manually download activity from
my bank. I select the month of the offending transaction (8/1/03-8/31/03)
and download it to my C:\Program Files\Quicken folder. I opened the file in
a text editor and saw the transaction on 8/22. Back in Quicken, I select
File, Import, Web Connect File, select the file I downloaded and hit OK.
Quicken does its thing the with FI, and I am brought back to the register.
When I download my recent activity using these same steps, I am shown my
cleared but not-yet-reconciled transactions that I can edit and accept. I
am expecting to see this same window when I open the QFX from 8/03.

Rick


"John Pollard" <invalid_address@noisp.com> wrote in message
news:GrdMb.24616$qC.21404@bignews3.bellsouth.net... Rick Kasten wrote: I have transactions in my statements from previous months that cleared my bank, but they are not in my Quicken registry. If I download activity from my account that includes the missing transactions and import that QFX file, Quicken does nothing. Hence, my account balance is always off. How do I get Quicken to recognize that fact that I have transactions in the QFX file that are not in the register? Some information that might be useful is missing from your post. Your version of Quicken and the actual steps in sequence that you took might
shed some more light. I believe that Quicken has a record of what transactions you already downloaded, and if it (and/or the fi) think that you have already
downloaded the transactions that are "missing", they won't be downloaded again. How did you determine that the "missing" transactions were in the QFX
file? Did you deduce it because you specified a date range for the download that would have included the "missing" transactions (not a reliable way to
prove that the "missing" transactions are in the QFX file); or did you actually look in the QFX file itself? If you are certain that the transactions you want are in the QFX file, you could try disabling access to the online account and re-enabling it. I
have no idea whether this will solve the problem, or even if there is a
problem, but I think it is worth a try.

[John Pollard]

Rick Kasten wrote: I have Quicken 2003 Premier R3. From my checking account register, I select Update Now to open the browser. I have to manually download activity from my bank. I select the month of the offending transaction (8/1/03-8/31/03) and download it to my C:\Program Files\Quicken folder. I opened the file in a text editor and saw the transaction on 8/22. Back in Quicken, I select File, Import, Web Connect File, select the file I downloaded and hit OK. Quicken does its thing the with FI, and I am brought back to the register. When I download my recent activity using these same steps, I am shown my cleared but not-yet-reconciled transactions that I can edit and accept. I am expecting to see this same window when I open the QFX from 8/03.

I do not know the details of how Quicken and the fi keep track of which
transactions they believe you have already downloaded. But I am reasonably
certain that web-connect and direct downloads do attempt to prevent you from
downloading transactions that you have already downloaded; or perhaps, more
correctly, to keep you from getting previously downloaded transactions into
your register a second time. If Quicken is maintaining the date of your
newest downloaded transaction in the account as the means of preventing your
from downloading the same transactions twice, then this would also prevent
you from downloading *any* transaction prior to that date ... even if one or
more of those transactions had never been downloaded before.

But there is something else that may be involved: you may have actually
downloaded the transactions that are now *missing* from your register. They
could have been downloaded as "new" transactions and you deleted them from
your register. Or they could have been downloaded as "match" transactions
(when they *should* have been "new), and you accepted them as "match"es.

In any event, it is my guess that you can not expect to be able to download
"old" transactions via web-connect or direct download.

[djebens]

John Pollard wrote:
Rick Kasten wrote:I have Quicken 2003 Premier R3. From my checking account register, Iselect Update Now to open the browser. I have to manually downloadactivity from my bank. I select the month of the offendingtransaction (8/1/03-8/31/03) and download it to my C:\ProgramFiles\Quicken folder. I opened the file in a text editor and saw thetransaction on 8/22. Back in Quicken, I select File, Import, WebConnect File, select the file I downloaded and hit OK. Quicken doesits thing the with FI, and I am brought back to the register. When Idownload my recent activity using these same steps, I am shown mycleared but not-yet-reconciled transactions that I can edit andaccept. I am expecting to see this same window when I open the QFXfrom 8/03.I do not know the details of how Quicken and the fi keep track of whichtransactions they believe you have already downloaded. But I am reasonablycertain that web-connect and direct downloads do attempt to prevent you fromdownloading transactions that you have already downloaded; or perhaps, morecorrectly, to keep you from getting previously downloaded transactions intoyour register a second time. If Quicken is maintaining the date of yournewest downloaded transaction in the account as the means of preventing yourfrom downloading the same transactions twice, then this would also preventyou from downloading *any* transaction prior to that date ... even if one ormore of those transactions had never been downloaded before.But there is something else that may be involved: you may have actuallydownloaded the transactions that are now *missing* from your register. Theycould have been downloaded as "new" transactions and you deleted them fromyour register. Or they could have been downloaded as "match" transactions(when they *should* have been "new), and you accepted them as "match"es.In any event, it is my guess that you can not expect to be able to download"old" transactions via web-connect or direct download.

Using direct download & 2004p r4 my fi (USAA) does get recent prior
downloaded transactions when they are not in the register. When I was
unable to open the file 01/02/04 (didn't try on the 1st) after changing
system date to 12/31/03 I could not open the restored 12/31/03 data &
had to restore 12/30/03. I had paid 3 bills on-line & many transactions
had cleared on the 31st. All 3 electronic payments were reinstated as
were the cleared transactions. Perhaps it was the fact that there were
only a few days separating the download that made this possible.

qkn2004 has been adventure & not 1 I appreciate w/financial data. The
first thing I do in the morning now is to open qkn to see if it still works!
dj