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Randall
06-29-2003, 04:13 PM
Hi;
Just bought my first 17" LCD, a Samsung Syncmaster 171N
System: P3 with 512MB RAM, a cheap new Ati Saphire Rage 128 Ultra video
card ( have older motherboard and was told there were problems fitting a
newer and better card ),
Windows ME
The problem I am having may be familiar with some but not to me. In the
Samsung ads it says that one can zoom in roughly 8 times and suffer no
degradation. On my previous CRT 17in this was true. But not only do I
suffer degradation at only 2x zoom but, downloaded from the net, photos look
like they are bitmapped when actually they are jpg and, funny thing, I find
that as the picture ( esp a B&W ) is on the screen it slowly starts
breaking into a blotchy pattern where the different shades of B&W no longer
blend but start to form boxy looking patterns of each shade and this appears
to be progressive the longer the image is displayed. This is usually on
using the zoom once.
Magnifying color jpgs have a similar result, the pictures start to break up
into little boxes.
Yeah I know this is probably an elementary question but I was told that this
new card, which was only about 40.00USD would work with this.
Can anyone help ?
Thanks
Rand
Pls copy reply to
rmb@intergate.ca
Alexgirl
06-29-2003, 06:38 PM
OK, bear in mind that I'm no techy and can't help with the hardware side of
it, but a jpg IS a bitmap and ALL bitmaps will look like little boxes of
colour when zoomed in -- this is what a bitmap is. It doesn't matter what
the monitor is, what the card is, when you are looking at a bitmap, you
cannot get quality when you resize it or when you magnify your view. Maybe
your new monitor is TOO good and you are seeing detail that you couldn't see
b4 on your old monitor. Like the old TV's, when you had lousy reception, you
would DECREASE the sharpness to get a better picture (to blur it together a
bit) because increased sharpness would show all the snow.
"Randall" <rmb@intergate.ca> wrote in message
news:vfv006o7qrum4e@corp.supernews.com... Hi; Just bought my first 17" LCD, a Samsung Syncmaster 171N System: P3 with 512MB RAM, a cheap new Ati Saphire Rage 128 Ultra video card ( have older motherboard and was told there were problems fitting a newer and better card ), Windows ME The problem I am having may be familiar with some but not to me. In the Samsung ads it says that one can zoom in roughly 8 times and suffer no degradation. On my previous CRT 17in this was true. But not only do I suffer degradation at only 2x zoom but, downloaded from the net, photos
look like they are bitmapped when actually they are jpg and, funny thing, I
find that as the picture ( esp a B&W ) is on the screen it slowly starts breaking into a blotchy pattern where the different shades of B&W no
longer blend but start to form boxy looking patterns of each shade and this
appears to be progressive the longer the image is displayed. This is usually on using the zoom once. Magnifying color jpgs have a similar result, the pictures start to break
up into little boxes. Yeah I know this is probably an elementary question but I was told that
this new card, which was only about 40.00USD would work with this. Can anyone help ? Thanks Rand Pls copy reply to rmb@intergate.ca
Stuart
07-09-2003, 04:40 AM
Firstly what resolution are you using and what is the maximum allowed by
both the LCD screen and the card. I am not sure what you mean when you
mention the picture breaks up into little boxes, if you are talking
about pixellation then you can't do anything about it.
The pixellation could be increased because you are using an LCD screen
but the 'degradation' will always happen......
....but when you mention that it seems to get worse then I am not sure,
check you have the latest catalyst drivers on your machine and go to the
ATI site and check to see if it is a known problem.
Unfortunately I don't know how much you know about raster images and
therefore can't say whether your 'problem' is really a problem or not.
Stuart
Randall wrote:
Hi; Just bought my first 17" LCD, a Samsung Syncmaster 171N System: P3 with 512MB RAM, a cheap new Ati Saphire Rage 128 Ultra video card ( have older motherboard and was told there were problems fitting a newer and better card ), Windows ME The problem I am having may be familiar with some but not to me. In the Samsung ads it says that one can zoom in roughly 8 times and suffer no degradation. On my previous CRT 17in this was true. But not only do I suffer degradation at only 2x zoom but, downloaded from the net, photos look like they are bitmapped when actually they are jpg and, funny thing, I find that as the picture ( esp a B&W ) is on the screen it slowly starts breaking into a blotchy pattern where the different shades of B&W no longer blend but start to form boxy looking patterns of each shade and this appears to be progressive the longer the image is displayed. This is usually on using the zoom once. Magnifying color jpgs have a similar result, the pictures start to break up into little boxes. Yeah I know this is probably an elementary question but I was told that this new card, which was only about 40.00USD would work with this. Can anyone help ? Thanks Rand Pls copy reply to rmb@intergate.ca
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