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Patrick Bailey
07-16-2003, 06:31 PM
Here's the straight poop from a human resource perspective. Most large
corporations base salaries on the state surveys for their counties for jobs
of similar responsibility and a general skill level that comes close.
That's why they pester managers for all those job descriptions. (there's no
secret formula for a testers, programmers etc). Then, based on the average,
the company determines if they want to have their pay scales slightly below,
equal or slightly greater - few companies will ever set the scale to
"incredibly greater than." In general, no human resource person focuses on
a specific position and researches it unless it's a very unusual skill (i.e.
chia pet consultant). Of course, there are those unusual circumstances
where the price goes up because supply outstrips demand (remember all those
archaic COBOLers who got rich as consultant with the Y2K scare.)

Hope this helps.

Pat
"Scooby Doo" <ScoobyDooNOSPAM@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:bf4chv$au4f8$1@ID-171358.news.uni-berlin.de... Is there a guideline as to the Test Manager's salary based on the tester's salary and the number of staff? Or is there another formula based on the salaries of testers? Ta

Patrick Bailey
07-17-2003, 01:53 PM
Like any other situation, the manager typically makes 10-20% more than the
highest paid person reporting directly to them. It doesn't matter if you're
managing a testers, developers, janitors or what. I've seldom seen much
variation on this (of course there's always an exception). Keep in mind,
pay scales are seldom set by the perceived value of the CIO - they're
determined by general rules of thumb. For what it's worth, this is based on
30 years of observing pay scales in highly technical and non-technical
fields.

"Scooby Doo" <ScoobyDooNOSPAM@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:bf6r9e$blajf$1@ID-171358.news.uni-berlin.de... Thanks for that. It does help but I was looking for something slightly different. Given a number of testers and their salary, how would someone extrapolate the Test Managers' salary? I know it won't be exactly accurate as a whole multitude of factors must be taken into account, but I'm after an approximation to gauge the estimated salary. Thanks again "Patrick Bailey" <patbly@comcast.net> wrote in message news:jUnRa.79710$ye4.59212@sccrnsc01... Here's the straight poop from a human resource perspective. Most large corporations base salaries on the state surveys for their counties for jobs of similar responsibility and a general skill level that comes close. That's why they pester managers for all those job descriptions.
(there's no secret formula for a testers, programmers etc). Then, based on the average, the company determines if they want to have their pay scales slightly below, equal or slightly greater - few companies will ever set the scale to "incredibly greater than." In general, no human resource person
focuses on a specific position and researches it unless it's a very unusual skill (i.e. chia pet consultant). Of course, there are those unusual circumstances where the price goes up because supply outstrips demand (remember all those archaic COBOLers who got rich as consultant with the Y2K scare.) Hope this helps. Pat "Scooby Doo" <ScoobyDooNOSPAM@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message news:bf4chv$au4f8$1@ID-171358.news.uni-berlin.de... Is there a guideline as to the Test Manager's salary based on the tester's salary and the number of staff? Or is there another formula based on
the salaries of testers? Ta

Vince Coen
07-18-2003, 12:47 PM
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Hello Scooby!

17 Jul 03 18:53, Scooby Doo wrote to All:

SD> Given a number of testers and their salary, how would someone
SD> extrapolate the Test Managers' salary? I know it won't be exactly
SD> accurate as a whole multitude of factors must be taken into account,
SD> but I'm after an approximation to gauge the estimated salary.

I have found that in the UK TM salaries vary heavily. They are dependant on
size of test team, responsibilities, project size etc. So being a TM for a
team of 2-4 at a rate of say 1,750 and for a team size of 8-12 the rate would
more likely be around 2,250 on the larger projects. Managing larger
teams/projects the rate can go up a lot higher i.e., around 2,500-2,750.

Tester rates by comparison are in the range 1,000 - 1,600 subject to skill
set and experience.


Vince


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