Developer Suite 10g - what's new ?

[BTnews]

Hi,

Has anyone worked out if there is actually anything new in DS 10g.

I have just installed and after a quick scout around nothing appears to be
different - not even
webutil has been included as a production release.

It seems its just 9i rebadged !

Regards

[Smiley]

BTnews wrote:
Hi, Has anyone worked out if there is actually anything new in DS 10g. I have just installed and after a quick scout around nothing appears to be different - not even webutil has been included as a production release. It seems its just 9i rebadged ! Regards
Maybe that's why it's also known as (9.0.4)....

:)

[BTnews]

yeh - bit of a giveaway - why do oracle waste their time and money ?

"Smiley" <anoniemke888getridofthis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3ffc5096$0$105$3a628fcd@reader1.nntp.hccnet.nl... BTnews wrote: Hi, Has anyone worked out if there is actually anything new in DS 10g. I have just installed and after a quick scout around nothing appears to
be different - not even webutil has been included as a production release. It seems its just 9i rebadged ! Regards Maybe that's why it's also known as (9.0.4).... :)

[Daniel Morgan]

BTnews wrote:
Hi, Has anyone worked out if there is actually anything new in DS 10g. I have just installed and after a quick scout around nothing appears to be different - not even webutil has been included as a production release. It seems its just 9i rebadged ! Regards

There are major differences in JDeveloper. Can't speak to the rest of
the suite.

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[BTnews]

Agree, JDeveloper would appear to be the only part of the suite that has
been invested in.

"Daniel Morgan" <damorgan@x.washington.edu> wrote in message
news:1073527258.834711@yasure... BTnews wrote: Hi, Has anyone worked out if there is actually anything new in DS 10g. I have just installed and after a quick scout around nothing appears to
be different - not even webutil has been included as a production release. It seems its just 9i rebadged ! Regards There are major differences in JDeveloper. Can't speak to the rest of the suite. -- Daniel Morgan http://www.outreach.washington.edu/ext/certificates/oad/oad_crs.asp http://www.outreach.washington.edu/ext/certificates/aoa/aoa_crs.asp damorgan@x.washington.edu (replace 'x' with a 'u' to reply)

[shay]

Check out OTN for a list of new features.
Most of them are enhancment to the deployment platform.
For Forms for example you get better SSO and OEM integration,
pre-start runtime, JDK 1.4 and more.
http://otn.oracle.com/products/forms

[Harald Aga]

"BTnews" <mjones.satisdata@btinternet.com> skrev i melding
news:btk5pf$pot$1@hercules.btinternet.com... Agree, JDeveloper would appear to be the only part of the suite that has been invested in. "Daniel Morgan" <damorgan@x.washington.edu> wrote in message news:1073527258.834711@yasure... BTnews wrote: Hi, Has anyone worked out if there is actually anything new in DS 10g. I have just installed and after a quick scout around nothing appears
to be different - not even webutil has been included as a production release. It seems its just 9i rebadged ! Regards There are major differences in JDeveloper. Can't speak to the rest of the suite. -- Daniel Morgan http://www.outreach.washington.edu/ext/certificates/oad/oad_crs.asp http://www.outreach.washington.edu/ext/certificates/aoa/aoa_crs.asp damorgan@x.washington.edu (replace 'x' with a 'u' to reply)

Sue Harper, Principal Manager for Oracle Designer, said at Oracle Open World
in Paris: "We're not giving you anything new in Designer 10g".

Harald Aga

[Daniel Morgan]

Harald Aga wrote:
"BTnews" <mjones.satisdata@btinternet.com> skrev i melding news:btk5pf$pot$1@hercules.btinternet.com...Agree, JDeveloper would appear to be the only part of the suite that hasbeen invested in."Daniel Morgan" <damorgan@x.washington.edu> wrote in messagenews:1073527258.834711@yasure...BTnews wrote:>Hi,>>Has anyone worked out if there is actually anything new in DS 10g.>>I have just installed and after a quick scout around nothing appears tobe>different - not even>webutil has been included as a production release.>>It seems its just 9i rebadged !>>RegardsThere are major differences in JDeveloper. Can't speak to the rest ofthe suite.--Daniel Morganhttp://www.outreach.washington.edu/ext/certificates/oad/oad_crs.asphttp://www.outreach.washington.edu/ext/certificates/aoa/aoa_crs.aspdamorgan@x.washington.edu(replace 'x' with a 'u' to reply) Sue Harper, Principal Manager for Oracle Designer, said at Oracle Open World in Paris: "We're not giving you anything new in Designer 10g". Harald Aga

I'm not surprised. There seems to be little new to do that wouldn't
require a major investment. And there is not enough interest in the
product among developers and DBAs to justify it.

These days everyone prefers to bang code first and specify requirements
later. Designer requires a methodology and training. Both rare
commodities in most organizations. (and IMLTHO it writes lousy Forms code).

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[Andy Hardy]

In message <wLaMb.598$Ed.13973@news4.e.nsc.no> , Harald Aga
<harald.aga@online.no> writes
Sue Harper, Principal Manager for Oracle Designer, said at Oracle Open Worldin Paris: "We're not giving you anything new in Designer 10g".

Same story during her UK Oracle User Group conference presentation - to
the extent that XML data-types might never be supported...

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[Sue Harper]

Andy Hardy <junkmail@[127.0.0.1]> wrote in message news:<+R0jYiEebbAAFwtl@[127.0.0.1]>... In message <wLaMb.598$Ed.13973@news4.e.nsc.no> , Harald Aga <harald.aga@online.no> writesSue Harper, Principal Manager for Oracle Designer, said at Oracle Open Worldin Paris: "We're not giving you anything new in Designer 10g". Same story during her UK Oracle User Group conference presentation - to the extent that XML data-types might never be supported...

The full name for the latest Developer Suite release is Oracle
Developer Suite 10g(9.0.4). This does mean that some of the products
in the suite, such as Designer, are the 9.0.4 release with minor
changes. Other tools in the suite have significant changes, such as
Forms, as was pointed out in a separate posting.
Over the past year, the Designer development team has added features
to Designer in an ongoing basis. e.g Features such as the Repository
Object Browser, which gives users the ability to query their
repositories using a browser was made available in a release early in
2003. See http://otn.oracle.com/products/designer for more.