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hill boyd
07-08-2003, 11:21 AM
Sorry to jump in with this query which may be out of context for the group
but, does anyone know the current, valid, address at which Microdigital ltd
carry on their business now because it seems that they no longer pick up
mail posted to 37 Titus Street, Saltaire, Shipley nor are they answwering
their Telephones?
Regards
Hill Boyd

Phil
07-08-2003, 11:52 AM
In article <3f0b19d3$0$11383$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com>, hill boyd
<h.boyd@argonet.co.uk> wrote: Sorry to jump in with this query which may be out of context for the group but, does anyone know the current, valid, address at which Microdigital ltd carry on their business now because it seems that they no longer pick up mail posted to 37 Titus Street, Saltaire, Shipley nor are they answwering their Telephones? Regards Hill Boyd


Phil: Don't know of any change in address, but I got through on the phone
and spoke with them yesterday. (Monday afternoon)

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Alan Gibson
07-08-2003, 02:35 PM
In message <3f0b19d3$0$11383$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com>
"hill boyd" <h.boyd@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
Sorry to jump in with this query which may be out of context for the group but, does anyone know the current, valid, address at which Microdigital ltd carry on their business now because it seems that they no longer pick up mail posted to 37 Titus Street, Saltaire, Shipley nor are they answwering their Telephones?

The address is correct and they do answer the phone if not already on it...
you've just got to keep trying (or fax them).

And I've now delivered my first customer Omegas and Alphas, just in case
there are still people harping on about that...



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hill boyd
07-08-2003, 10:33 PM
"Alan Gibson" <alan@liquid-silicon.com> wrote in message
news:5bfe060f4c.Alan@agse00.blueyonder.co.uk... In message <3f0b19d3$0$11383$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com> "hill boyd" <h.boyd@argonet.co.uk> wrote: Sorry to jump in with this query which may be out of context for the
group but, does anyone know the current, valid, address at which Microdigital
ltd carry on their business now because it seems that they no longer pick up mail posted to 37 Titus Street, Saltaire, Shipley nor are they
answwering their Telephones? The address is correct and they do answer the phone if not already on
it... you've just got to keep trying (or fax them). And I've now delivered my first customer Omegas and Alphas, just in case there are still people harping on about that... Alan -- POSum distribution - New standards in EPoS solutions -
http://www.epos.org.uk MelIDI distribution - Superlative MIDI sequencing -
http://www.melidi.co.uk RISC OS dealers and developers - Tel +44 1592 592265 - Fax +44 1592
596102 Liquid Silicon - sales@liquid-silicon.com -
http://www.liquid-silicon.com

So, might you be able to provide any enlightenment as to why 'Recorded
Delivery' class mail should be returned to the sender marked as 'not called
for', two weeks after the P.O. attempted to deliver?

Any help is appreciated.

Hill

VinceH (real address)
07-09-2003, 12:37 AM
In article <3f0bb742$0$18496$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com>,
hill boyd <h.boyd@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
So, might you be able to provide any enlightenment as to why 'Recorded Delivery' class mail should be returned to the sender marked as 'not called for', two weeks after the P.O. attempted to deliver?

Perhaps, when the postman failed to get an answer when
ringing the bell to get a signature and so put a card
through the door, that card got overlooked or mislaid
by MD, so they couldn't collect the item of [recorded]
post that was waiting for them. Maybe, depending on
how it was overlooked or mislaid, they weren't even
aware that something *was* waiting for them.

That's what 'not called for' means AFAIK - it had to
be brought back to the sorting office pending
collection, but nobody came to collect it.

VinceH

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charles.hope
07-09-2003, 01:34 AM
In article <3f0b19d3$0$11383$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com>,
hill boyd <h.boyd@argonet.co.uk> wrote: Sorry to jump in with this query which may be out of context for the group but, does anyone know the current, valid, address at which Microdigital ltd carry on their business now because it seems that they no longer pick up mail posted to 37 Titus Street, Saltaire, Shipley nor are they answwering their Telephones? Regards Hill Boyd

They certainly talked to me on Monday, after I had left a message on their
voicemail. And the call came from their published number!

Tim Powys-Lybbe
07-09-2003, 03:37 AM
In message <4c0f384c56spambin@softrock.co.uk>
"VinceH (use reply-to)" <spambin@softrock.co.uk> wrote:
In article <3f0bb742$0$18496$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com>, hill boyd <h.boyd@argonet.co.uk> wrote: So, might you be able to provide any enlightenment as to why 'Recorded Delivery' class mail should be returned to the sender marked as 'not called for', two weeks after the P.O. attempted to deliver? Perhaps, when the postman failed to get an answer when ringing the bell to get a signature and so put a card through the door, that card got overlooked or mislaid by MD, so they couldn't collect the item of [recorded] post that was waiting for them. Maybe, depending on how it was overlooked or mislaid, they weren't even aware that something *was* waiting for them. That's what 'not called for' means AFAIK - it had to be brought back to the sorting office pending collection, but nobody came to collect it.

Agreed. Some agents once served a notice to quit on some tenant by
recorded delivery. It never got delivered as the tenant was always out
at work and got returned to the senders. So he did not quit!

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Jim Lesurf
07-09-2003, 04:25 AM
In article <4c0f384c56spambin@softrock.co.uk>, VinceH (use reply-to)
<spambin@softrock.co.uk> wrote: In article <3f0bb742$0$18496$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com>, hill boyd <h.boyd@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
So, might you be able to provide any enlightenment as to why 'Recorded Delivery' class mail should be returned to the sender marked as 'not called for', two weeks after the P.O. attempted to deliver?
Perhaps, when the postman failed to get an answer when ringing the bell to get a signature and so put a card through the door, that card got overlooked or mislaid by MD, so they couldn't collect the item of [recorded] post that was waiting for them. Maybe, depending on how it was overlooked or mislaid, they weren't even aware that something *was* waiting for them.

If you lose the note the postman leaves, you can just phone the sorting
office and they will attempt to deliver again. IIRC This is my experience,
anyway.
That's what 'not called for' means AFAIK - it had to be brought back to the sorting office pending collection, but nobody came to collect it.

Seems careless to lose such delivery-attempt notes and forget about them.
The items in question might be valuable/needed...

Slainte,

Jim

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Ralph Corderoy
07-09-2003, 06:57 AM
Hi hill,
Sorry to jump in with this query which may be out of context for the group but, does anyone know the current, valid, address at which Microdigital ltd carry on their business now because it seems that they no longer pick up mail posted to 37 Titus Street, Saltaire, Shipley nor are they answwering their Telephones?

If you're trying to get your deposit returned and are unable to
establish contact try talking to your credit card company, assuming
that's how you paid the deposit.

Charles Hope got a deposit returned IIRC. I can't recall how he managed
it, but it was discussed in these Acorn Usenet groups at the time.

Cheers,

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Alan Lewer
07-09-2003, 09:27 AM
In message <4c0f384c56spambin@softrock.co.uk>
"VinceH (use reply-to)" <spambin@softrock.co.uk> wrote:
In article <3f0bb742$0$18496$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com>, hill boyd <h.boyd@argonet.co.uk> wrote: So, might you be able to provide any enlightenment as to why 'Recorded Delivery' class mail should be returned to the sender marked as 'not called for', two weeks after the P.O. attempted to deliver? Perhaps, when the postman failed to get an answer when ringing the bell to get a signature and so put a card through the door, that card got overlooked or mislaid by MD, so they couldn't collect the item of [recorded] post that was waiting for them. Maybe, depending on how it was overlooked or mislaid, they weren't even aware that something *was* waiting for them. That's what 'not called for' means AFAIK - it had to be brought back to the sorting office pending collection, but nobody came to collect it. VinceH
I have experienced the same with Microdigital - recorded delivery
returned on 30 June marked 'Not Called For'. And left message on
answerphone but no return call.....

Alan
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VinceH (real address)
07-09-2003, 12:14 PM
In article <4c0f4d37e4jcgl@st-and.demon.co.uk>,
Jim Lesurf <jcgl@st-and.demon.co.uk> wrote: In article <4c0f384c56spambin@softrock.co.uk>, VinceH (use reply-to) <spambin@softrock.co.uk> wrote:
Perhaps, when the postman failed to get an answer when ringing the bell to get a signature and so put a card through the door, that card got overlooked or mislaid by MD, so they couldn't collect the item of [recorded] post that was waiting for them. Maybe, depending on how it was overlooked or mislaid, they weren't even aware that something *was* waiting for them.
If you lose the note the postman leaves, you can just phone the sorting office and they will attempt to deliver again. IIRC This is my experience, anyway.

Yes - IIRC one of the options given on the card is to
ring and arrange re-delivery.

Not much use in the /last/ sentence given above,
though, unless you're in the habit of arbitrarily
ringing the local sorting office just in case.

I have actually /almost/ been in that sort of
situation myself - I went to leave one morning, and
noticed the card /outside/ on the ground, just to one
side of the door. Clearly the postman hadn't pushed
it in properly, and hadn't noticed it fall back out.
Luckily it hadn't blown away.

I'm not suggesting this has happened here, and the
fact that another poster has mentioned also having
something returned from MD in the same way as the
OP suggests otherwise anyway. It was just an example
of how things can go wrong.
That's what 'not called for' means AFAIK - it had to be brought back to the sorting office pending collection, but nobody came to collect it.
Seems careless to lose such delivery-attempt notes and forget about them. The items in question might be valuable/needed...

Yes, they might - but, again, it may have been (but
clearly isn't) that they had somehow managed not to
even receive the card. That would be *really*
careless of them had it been so, wouldn't it?

However, we can be more certain that that isn't the
case anyway, now.

VinceH

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Phil
07-09-2003, 12:19 PM
In article <8de5680f4c.alanlewer@ntlworld.com>,
Alan Lewer <alanlewer@ntlworld.com> wrote: In message <4c0f384c56spambin@softrock.co.uk> "VinceH (use reply-to)" <spambin@softrock.co.uk> wrote:
In article <3f0bb742$0$18496$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com>, hill boyd <h.boyd@argonet.co.uk> wrote: So, might you be able to provide any enlightenment as to why 'Recorded Delivery' class mail should be returned to the sender marked as 'not called for', two weeks after the P.O. attempted to deliver? Perhaps, when the postman failed to get an answer when ringing the bell to get a signature and so put a card through the door, that card got overlooked or mislaid by MD, so they couldn't collect the item of [recorded] post that was waiting for them. Maybe, depending on how it was overlooked or mislaid, they weren't even aware that something *was* waiting for them. That's what 'not called for' means AFAIK - it had to be brought back to the sorting office pending collection, but nobody came to collect it. VinceH I have experienced the same with Microdigital - recorded delivery returned on 30 June marked 'Not Called For'. And left message on answerphone but no return call.....
Alan
Phil: Wasn't that when they were all over in Holland at the Big Ben show?
(and then off ill afterwards)
I have problems with deliveries when I'm here at home/office: I work in
the room immediately above the front door and still some deliveries go
away as if 'not in' - and we have sometimes found the cards float under
adjacent furniture to be found months later!
The most notable example was a Maplin delivery which 'never arrived', and
was replaced by Maplin: we found it years later when an expanded
polystyrene 'step' used by our cats for the the cat flap finally
disintegrated - the parcel (slightly decayed by then) was underneath it!
(we never found the card, and the PO investigation never rechecked
where the parcel had actually been left 8-);
Admittedly most of our regular deliverers (Post and Parcels) know when I'm
in.

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Philip Pemberton
07-09-2003, 01:46 PM
In message <4c0f78966cPhil@fillin.co.uk>
Phil <Phil@fillin.co.uk> wrote:
Admittedly most of our regular deliverers (Post and Parcels) know when I'm in.
I had a rather nasty experience with Royal Mail last week - I ordered some
photographic equipment from a seller on the Internet. The postman came,
shoved a card through the door and ran back to his van!
I walked out the door, ran up to the end of the drive, waving the card in the
air and he actually sped up and didn't, er, "give way" at the T-junction at
the bottom of the street. How he missed the car that was doing 45mph along
the main road I may never know...

Needless to say, I got a 5mi round trip to the local sorting office to pick
up said parcel. So much for Special Delivery... And they delivered it after
12 noon to boot. How typical.

Later.
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Martyn Fox
07-09-2003, 02:04 PM
In article <0a8a800f4c.philpem@dsl.pipex.com>, Philip Pemberton
<philpem@despammed.com> wrote:
I had a rather nasty experience with Royal Mail last week - I ordered some photographic equipment from a seller on the Internet. The postman came, shoved a card through the door and ran back to his van!

Didn't he even knock or ring the doorbell?

Martyn

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James Scholes
07-09-2003, 02:06 PM
Theorising that one could timetravel within his own lifetime,
"VinceH (use reply-to)" <spambin@softrock.co.uk> wrote:

[snip] I have actually /almost/ been in that sort of situation myself - I went to leave one morning, and noticed the card /outside/ on the ground, just to one side of the door. Clearly the postman hadn't pushed it in properly, and hadn't noticed it fall back out. Luckily it hadn't blown away.

I can go one better: went to the local sorting office without any kind of
card, and collected a package I *should* have had no knowledge of. Online
tracking is a beautiful thing (still don't know where the card went though)

There again, around here, I have proof that they don't even *try* to deliver
some of the time: received a note telling me that they'd missed me at 7:15am,
which sounds reasonable, except that I was pulling and all-nighter, and was
up from 11am the previous day through to 10pm that evening, and never heard
anything of them. I'm not suggesting this has happened here, and the fact that another poster has mentioned also having something returned from MD in the same way as the OP suggests otherwise anyway. It was just an example of how things can go wrong.

Not to cast aspersions, and all completely theoretical, but isn't it true
that an official letter sent by recorded post can't be put into effect if the
recipient refuses to acknowledge it? It's been known for companies expecting
demands for repayment of deposits to manage not to receive recorded
deliveries. If a certain company was, say, several years' late on delivering,
they could be wary of recorded deliveries.

Mentioning no names, of course, and no slur on any companies. I support them
all for their sterling work in keeping the platform alive.

James

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Philip Pemberton
07-09-2003, 02:38 PM
In message <4c0f82353dmfox@argonet.co.uk>
Martyn Fox <mfox@argonet.co.uk> wrote:

Didn't he even knock or ring the doorbell?
Course not - that would have been too much trouble, despite the fact he was
most likely employed to knock on peoples' doors and hand over items of
post...

Later.
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VinceH (real address)
07-10-2003, 12:37 AM
In article <255c820f4c.James@ntlworld.com>,
James Scholes <james.scholes@ntlworld.com> wrote:
There again, around here, I have proof that they don't even *try* to deliver some of the time: received a note telling me that they'd missed me at 7:15am, which sounds reasonable, except that I was pulling and all-nighter, and was up from 11am the previous day through to 10pm that evening, and never heard anything of them.

Yeah, I've had something similar recently - postie
didn't knock, and instead shoved a card through. What
was being sent wasn't for me (with no initial, the
normal assumption here is that it is - why can't they
put an initial on and save my time?) *and* it turned
out to have been a few weeks in transit! I think I
probably mentioned it on one of these groups recently
in another thread.
Not to cast aspersions, and all completely theoretical, but isn't it true that an official letter sent by recorded post can't be put into effect if the recipient refuses to acknowledge it? It's been known for companies expecting demands for repayment of deposits to manage not to receive recorded deliveries. If a certain company was, say, several years' late on delivering, they could be wary of recorded deliveries.

That possibility did occur.

I just chose not to say it. :-)

VinceH

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Philip Pemberton
07-11-2003, 01:02 PM
In message <21f1a3bd.0307092343.676b44f6@posting.google.com>
stuart@stdevel.com (Stuart Tyrrell) wrote:
I'd also wager that the time written on this card was before 12.....
12:51. And the git at the sorting office refused to give me the card back as
proof. I even pointed out that he could probably just stamp it with the date,
mark it "RECEIVED - VOID" on both sides and give it back. Nope - "Royal Mail
policy says we can't do that".
I do have witnesses though :)

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