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Chris Evans
07-22-2003, 01:02 AM
In article <4c384c154c.pmkw_ntl@ntlworld.com>, Peter Wightman
<URL:mailto:spam.news@pmkw.co.uk> wrote: Hi all, I'm very much hoping to print to an HP Color LaserJet 8550DN colour laser printer at my university, and need to identify a suitable driver for it. Sadly, the powers that be have disabled PostScript, and don't seem open to negotiation - it's PCL only, and staying that way. Is there a colour PCL driver that I can use with it? I would already have tried a DeskJet pdf if I wasn't afraid of printing reems of expensive garbage! Which is why I'm asking...

I doubt it would work most RISC OS driven lasers are using PCL4,5 or 6 the
drivers of which do not support colour:-(

The only Colour lasers I've heared anyone using with RISC OS are PostScript.

Chris Evans

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Roger W Wylde
07-22-2003, 02:16 PM
In message <ant2209041cbpErr@client.cjemicros.co.uk>
Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> wrote:
In article <4c384c154c.pmkw_ntl@ntlworld.com>, Peter Wightman <URL:mailto:spam.news@pmkw.co.uk> wrote: Hi all, I'm very much hoping to print to an HP Color LaserJet 8550DN colour laser printer at my university, and need to identify a suitable driver for it. Sadly, the powers that be have disabled PostScript, and don't seem open to negotiation - it's PCL only, and staying that way. Is there a colour PCL driver that I can use with it? I would already have tried a DeskJet pdf if I wasn't afraid of printing reems of expensive garbage! Which is why I'm asking... I doubt it would work most RISC OS driven lasers are using PCL4,5 or 6 the drivers of which do not support colour:-( The only Colour lasers I've heared anyone using with RISC OS are PostScript. Chris Evans

You've got me doubting my own sanity. I'm sure I've driven
the LaserJet 2500 or was it a 4500, well anyway I've had it
working from the RPC using PCL via one of the supplied
drivers.

Pitty you can't use Postscript, have got my Iyonix wired via
USB to a Xerox Phaser 8200DP and besides being able to spit
out glossy full color pages with perfect alignment and next
to no margins, with postscript anything vectorwise from
Artworks is printing in seconds, 16ppm.

I'd love one for home, but at 1400 quids it's a little out
of my range.

--
Roger Wylde - I.T. Technician, Droitwich Spa High School, Worcestershire
http://www.droitwichspahigh.worcs.sch.uk
At home and work an Acorn Risc PC, 233Mhz StrongARM, RISC OS Select 4.29
and on the move an Acorn A4 4Mb/3Gb - http://www.niftysoftware.co.uk
NetGuard - RISC OS Network Security, BBCs and Acorn stuff for sale

Chris Evans
07-23-2003, 12:52 AM
In article <472535164c.roger@nifty.demon.co.uk>, Roger W Wylde
<URL:mailto:roger@niftysoftware.co.uk> wrote: In message <ant2209041cbpErr@client.cjemicros.co.uk> Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> wrote: In article <4c384c154c.pmkw_ntl@ntlworld.com>, Peter Wightman <URL:mailto:spam.news@pmkw.co.uk> wrote: Hi all, I'm very much hoping to print to an HP Color LaserJet 8550DN colour laser printer at my university, and need to identify a suitable driver for it. Sadly, the powers that be have disabled PostScript, and don't seem open to negotiation - it's PCL only, and staying that way. Is there a colour PCL driver that I can use with it? I would already have tried a DeskJet pdf if I wasn't afraid of printing reems of expensive garbage! Which is why I'm asking... I doubt it would work most RISC OS driven lasers are using PCL4,5 or 6 the drivers of which do not support colour:-( The only Colour lasers I've heared anyone using with RISC OS are PostScript. Chris Evans You've got me doubting my own sanity. I'm sure I've driven the LaserJet 2500 or was it a 4500, well anyway I've had it working from the RPC using PCL via one of the supplied drivers.

Printing in colour?
Pitty you can't use Postscript, have got my Iyonix wired via USB to a Xerox Phaser 8200DP and besides being able to spit out glossy full color pages with perfect alignment and next to no margins, with postscript anything vectorwise from Artworks is printing in seconds, 16ppm. I'd love one for home, but at 1400 quids it's a little out of my range.

Well for 320 GBP less we can supply a compatible QMS PostScript Colour Laser!

Not from stock ;-) but should only take a day or two to obtain!


Chris Evans

--
CJE Micro's / NCS / Fourth Dimension 'RISC OS Specialists'
Telephone: (01903) 523222 Fax: (01903) 523679
chris@cjemicros.co.uk http://www.cjemicros.co.uk/
78 Brighton Road, Worthing, West Sussex, BN11 2EN, UK.

Elaine Jones
07-23-2003, 02:24 AM
Quoting from message <ant230815868pErr@client.cjemicros.co.uk>
posted on 23 Jul 2003 by Chris Evans
I would like to add:
In article <472535164c.roger@nifty.demon.co.uk>, Roger W Wylde <URL:mailto:roger@niftysoftware.co.uk> wrote:
You've got me doubting my own sanity. I'm sure I've driven the LaserJet 2500 or was it a 4500, well anyway I've had it working from the RPC using PCL via one of the supplied drivers. Printing in colour? Pitty you can't use Postscript, have got my Iyonix wired via USB to a Xerox Phaser 8200DP and besides being able to spit out glossy full color pages with perfect alignment and next to no margins, with postscript anything vectorwise from Artworks is printing in seconds, 16ppm. I'd love one for home, but at 1400 quids it's a little out of my range. Well for 320 GBP less we can supply a compatible QMS PostScript Colour Laser! Not from stock ;-) but should only take a day or two to obtain!

I have QMS Magicolor 2350 - if anyone wants to see a sample print email
me with postal address.

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Tim Powys-Lybbe
07-23-2003, 05:05 AM
In message <ant230815868pErr@client.cjemicros.co.uk>
Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> wrote:
In article <472535164c.roger@nifty.demon.co.uk>, Roger W Wylde <URL:mailto:roger@niftysoftware.co.uk> wrote:
You've got me doubting my own sanity. I'm sure I've driven the LaserJet 2500 or was it a 4500, well anyway I've had it working from the RPC using PCL via one of the supplied drivers. Printing in colour? Pitty you can't use Postscript, have got my Iyonix wired via USB to a Xerox Phaser 8200DP and besides being able to spit out glossy full color pages with perfect alignment and next to no margins, with postscript anything vectorwise from Artworks is printing in seconds, 16ppm. I'd love one for home, but at 1400 quids it's a little out of my range. Well for 320 GBP less we can supply a compatible QMS PostScript Colour Laser! Not from stock ;-) but should only take a day or two to obtain!

This sounds like the "magicolor 2350" ??? If so, it also sounds one
heck of a printer.

But I read somewhere among the blurb that it required PostScript 3 to
drive it; if so, can we generate this on a RISC OS machine?

The blurb also said it would accept PDF. Does his mean that you can
just throw a PDF file at it? If so, that's excellent news.

But the price remains a bit heavy, even at 320 off (plus / minus VAT?).

--
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Ian K (N)
07-23-2003, 09:41 AM
In article <ant230815868pErr@client.cjemicros.co.uk>,
Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> wrote: In article <472535164c.roger@nifty.demon.co.uk>, Roger W Wylde <URL:mailto:roger@niftysoftware.co.uk> wrote: In message <ant2209041cbpErr@client.cjemicros.co.uk> Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> wrote: In article <4c384c154c.pmkw_ntl@ntlworld.com>, Peter Wightman <URL:mailto:spam.news@pmkw.co.uk> wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm very much hoping to print to an HP Color LaserJet 8550DN > colour laser printer at my university, and need to identify a > suitable driver for it. > > Sadly, the powers that be have disabled PostScript, and don't > seem open to negotiation - it's PCL only, and staying that way. > Is there a colour PCL driver that I can use with it? > > I would already have tried a DeskJet pdf if I wasn't afraid of > printing reems of expensive garbage! Which is why I'm asking... I doubt it would work most RISC OS driven lasers are using PCL4,5 or 6 the drivers of which do not support colour:-( The only Colour lasers I've heared anyone using with RISC OS are PostScript. Chris Evans You've got me doubting my own sanity. I'm sure I've driven the LaserJet 2500 or was it a 4500, well anyway I've had it working from the RPC using PCL via one of the supplied drivers.
Printing in colour?

To my knowledge the only PCL drivers available are the ones that come with
!Printers and these don't support Colour. If anyone fancies writing one
the relevant data is available on a CD from HP. I am thinking of doing it
myself but it won't be soon as I have other projects to do first.

Regards
Ian K


* Founder member of the East Fincley On Sea Codswollop Deprecation Society. ;-)

Eddie Lord
07-23-2003, 10:37 AM
In NG message <ant230815868pErr@client.cjemicros.co.uk>
Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> wrote:
In article <472535164c.roger@nifty.demon.co.uk>, Roger W Wylde <URL:mailto:roger@niftysoftware.co.uk> wrote: In message <ant2209041cbpErr@client.cjemicros.co.uk> Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> wrote: In article <4c384c154c.pmkw_ntl@ntlworld.com>, Peter Wightman <URL:mailto:spam.news@pmkw.co.uk> wrote: > Hi all, >
[...] The only Colour lasers I've heared anyone using with RISC OS are PostScript. Chris Evans You've got me doubting my own sanity. I'm sure I've driven the LaserJet 2500 or was it a 4500, well anyway I've had it working from the RPC using PCL via one of the supplied drivers. Printing in colour? Pitty you can't use Postscript, have got my Iyonix wired via USB to a Xerox Phaser 8200DP and besides being able to spit out glossy full color pages with perfect alignment and next to no margins, with postscript anything vectorwise from Artworks is printing in seconds, 16ppm. I'd love one for home, but at 1400 quids it's a little out of my range. Well for 320 GBP less we can supply a compatible QMS PostScript Colour Laser!

The Xerox 8200 is advertised as a solid colour printer rather than a
laser. It does seem to produce superior colour output. Is the QMS able
to match the colour on glossy paper?

I saw it advertised at 980 + VAT, but its the networking and duplex unit
that really makes it prohibitive. Not from stock ;-) but should only take a day or two to obtain! Chris Evans

--
Regards

Eddie
Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake. - Napoleon

Roger W Wylde
07-23-2003, 01:10 PM
In message <2ec0aa9a.0307231224.20f7adfd@posting.google.com>
news@sprow.co.uk (Sprow) wrote:
Roger W Wylde <roger@niftysoftware.co.uk> wrote in message news:<472535164c.roger@nifty.demon.co.uk>... In message <ant2209041cbpErr@client.cjemicros.co.uk> Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> wrote: In article <4c384c154c.pmkw_ntl@ntlworld.com>, Peter Wightman <URL:mailto:spam.news@pmkw.co.uk> wrote: [shared printer] > it's PCL only, and staying that way. Is there a colour > PCL driver that I can use with it? > I doubt it would work most RISC OS driven lasers are using PCL4,5 or 6 the drivers of which do not support colour:-( You've got me doubting my own sanity. I'm sure I've driven the LaserJet 2500 or was it a 4500, well anyway I've had it working from the RPC using PCL via one of the supplied drivers. The PCL driver (aka PDumperLJ) definately contains lots of colour handling CMYK jiggery pokery,and it definately looks at the "this ere printer is colour" flag in the PDF. I'm 80% sure it can do colour, Sprow.

Digging around my cluttered brain, I recall using the
LJ2500C driver. Upon loading it just now, it turns out to be
a PS driver, soz folkes for confusing you. Although Sprow
seems to indicate that colour PCL should be possible.

Roger.

--
Roger Wylde - I.T. Technician, Droitwich Spa High School, Worcestershire
http://www.droitwichspahigh.worcs.sch.uk
At home and work an Acorn Risc PC, 233Mhz StrongARM, RISC OS Select 4.29
and on the move an Acorn A4 4Mb/3Gb - http://www.niftysoftware.co.uk
NetGuard - RISC OS Network Security, BBCs and Acorn stuff for sale

Roger W Wylde
07-23-2003, 01:44 PM
In message <8dffa4164c.eddie@eddie.brookhaven.plus.com>
Eddie Lord <eddielord@onetel.net.uk> wrote:
In NG message <ant230815868pErr@client.cjemicros.co.uk> Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> wrote: In article <472535164c.roger@nifty.demon.co.uk>, Roger W Wylde <URL:mailto:roger@niftysoftware.co.uk> wrote: In message <ant2209041cbpErr@client.cjemicros.co.uk> Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> wrote: > In article <4c384c154c.pmkw_ntl@ntlworld.com>, Peter Wightman > <URL:mailto:spam.news@pmkw.co.uk> wrote: > > Hi all, > > [...] > > The only Colour lasers I've heared anyone using with RISC OS are PostScript. > > Chris Evans > You've got me doubting my own sanity. I'm sure I've driven the LaserJet 2500 or was it a 4500, well anyway I've had it working from the RPC using PCL via one of the supplied drivers. Printing in colour? Pitty you can't use Postscript, have got my Iyonix wired via USB to a Xerox Phaser 8200DP and besides being able to spit out glossy full color pages with perfect alignment and next to no margins, with postscript anything vectorwise from Artworks is printing in seconds, 16ppm. I'd love one for home, but at 1400 quids it's a little out of my range. Well for 320 GBP less we can supply a compatible QMS PostScript Colour Laser! The Xerox 8200 is advertised as a solid colour printer rather than a laser. It does seem to produce superior colour output. Is the QMS able to match the colour on glossy paper? I saw it advertised at 980 + VAT, but its the networking and duplex unit that really makes it prohibitive.

Oh yes, the DP model is full duplex and networked. The
glossy print on normal copier paper is amazing. Colours are
far fresher than on the LJ2500. It runs on cute little Ink
Stix, basically blocks of wax, each colour is a different
shape (like one of those kiddy games) - now that's what I
call thick-proof!

We ran a full colour programme for a recent school event
comprising 4 double sided A4s and one single sided card
cover. Had all 200 copies done in one morning.

There's some shots of a selection of pages on the school web
site to show just what you can do in-house with such a
loverly printer :-
http://www.droitwichspahigh.worcs.sch.uk/extra/pop3.htm

Roger.

--
Roger Wylde - I.T. Technician, Droitwich Spa High School, Worcestershire
http://www.droitwichspahigh.worcs.sch.uk
At home and work an Acorn Risc PC, 233Mhz StrongARM, RISC OS Select 4.29
and on the move an Acorn A4 4Mb/3Gb - http://www.niftysoftware.co.uk
NetGuard - RISC OS Network Security, BBCs and Acorn stuff for sale

Elaine Jones
07-24-2003, 02:49 AM
Quoting from message <3F1FAA97.8000706@is.invalid>
posted on 24 Jul 2003 by John Tytgat
I would like to add:
Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote:But I read somewhere among the blurb that it required PostScript 3 todrive it; if so, can we generate this on a RISC OS machine? Rest assured : there only a very few PostScript Level 1 & Level 2 constructions which are no longer fully supported by a PostScript 3 printer. So RISC OS PostScript files should work fine on such a printer (taking the usual RISC OS PostScript printing advise into account).


That's what I've done.

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