DeskJet 895CXi and external JetDirect EX PLUS 3

[Christian =?ISO-8859-1?Q?D=FCrrhauer?=]

Hi,

untill recently my DeskJet 895CXi was attached to a legacy ECP printer port
on a Windows XP machine which really worked fine. I now
physically rearranged systems, so this printer had to go to an external
JetDirect EX Plus 3 printserver, also from HP.

What I did in the Windows system supplying network access to that printer
is to add its port by choosing "add port", "standard HP printserver port"
and pointing to its IP address, choosing port 2 because it's where the
DJ895CXi is physically attached to. Plus, I changed the 895CXi's printer
port setting from LPT1 to that port in the printing preferences window.

The same procedure has worked fine for a HP 5Si. The DeskJet printer,
however, does not start to print. It is obviously receiving data as it's
trying to feed paper, but that attempt stops after approx. 5-8 sec. and the
orange light below the power on indicator led starts blinking.
Unfortunately, pressing the button doesn't yield in continuing as stated in
the manual.

I already made sure that printing preferences use the right correct paper
size and type used here in Germany. I do assume, though, that printing by
using the JetDirect uses some other settings for paper but I have been
unsuccessful in finding an option in the Web JetAdmin system that I've
installed. The printer uses the same cable that worked when it was directly
attached to the windows system.

Can anybody point me in the right direction what to do now? TIA

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Christian Dürrhauer, Institute of Geography, FU Berlin

Danger - if you meet it promptly and without flinching - you will reduce
the danger by half. Never run away from anything. Never! - Sir Winston
Leonard Spencer Churchill

[Christian =?ISO-8859-1?Q?D=FCrrhauer?=]

And on the seventh day, Christian Dürrhauer wrote...
Hi, untill recently my DeskJet 895CXi was attached to a legacy ECP printer port on a Windows XP machine which really worked fine. I now physically rearranged systems, so this printer had to go to an external JetDirect EX Plus 3 printserver, also from HP. What I did in the Windows system supplying network access to that printer is to add its port by choosing "add port", "standard HP printserver port" and pointing to its IP address, choosing port 2 because it's where the DJ895CXi is physically attached to. Plus, I changed the 895CXi's printer port setting from LPT1 to that port in the printing preferences window. The same procedure has worked fine for a HP 5Si. The DeskJet printer, however, does not start to print. It is obviously receiving data as it's trying to feed paper, but that attempt stops after approx. 5-8 sec. and the orange light below the power on indicator led starts blinking. Unfortunately, pressing the button doesn't yield in continuing as stated in the manual. I already made sure that printing preferences use the right correct paper size and type used here in Germany. I do assume, though, that printing by using the JetDirect uses some other settings for paper but I have been unsuccessful in finding an option in the Web JetAdmin system that I've installed. The printer uses the same cable that worked when it was directly attached to the windows system. Can anybody point me in the right direction what to do now? TIA

Well, changing the Auto setting in the configuration dialog in Web JetAdmin
to MLC (not Birectional) did the trick. - the DJ895 was bidirectional,
wasn't it? Curious...

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Mit freundlichen Grüßen/with kind regards
Christian Dürrhauer, Institute of Geography, FU Berlin

Danger - if you meet it promptly and without flinching - you will reduce
the danger by half. Never run away from anything. Never! - Sir Winston
Leonard Spencer Churchill

[Ben Myers]

Not really curious. "Bi-directional" for a parallel port printer implies that
it is communicating directly with a computer at the other end of the cable.
Neither the host printer drivers nor the JetDirect firmware apparently have the
sophistication necessary to emulate correctly the bi-directional parallel
protocol. This is typical of the lower priced HP DeskJets, with which HP makes
every attempt to prevent using them as networked printers. It is only the more
expensive DeskJets like the 1200- and 2000-series that HP "allows" to be
networked. In the meantime, yours and other workarounds allow people to connect
up the cheaper DeskJets for essentially casual networked use, either in a home
or a smallish office.

Your finding, to set up the JetDirect as not bi-directional, is a bit bit of
information for future use by others... Ben Myers

On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 10:09:56 +0100, Christian =?ISO-8859-1?Q?D=FCrrhauer?=
<cduerr@geog.fu-berlin.de> wrote:
And on the seventh day, Christian Dürrhauer wrote... Hi, untill recently my DeskJet 895CXi was attached to a legacy ECP printer port on a Windows XP machine which really worked fine. I now physically rearranged systems, so this printer had to go to an external JetDirect EX Plus 3 printserver, also from HP. What I did in the Windows system supplying network access to that printer is to add its port by choosing "add port", "standard HP printserver port" and pointing to its IP address, choosing port 2 because it's where the DJ895CXi is physically attached to. Plus, I changed the 895CXi's printer port setting from LPT1 to that port in the printing preferences window. The same procedure has worked fine for a HP 5Si. The DeskJet printer, however, does not start to print. It is obviously receiving data as it's trying to feed paper, but that attempt stops after approx. 5-8 sec. and the orange light below the power on indicator led starts blinking. Unfortunately, pressing the button doesn't yield in continuing as stated in the manual. I already made sure that printing preferences use the right correct paper size and type used here in Germany. I do assume, though, that printing by using the JetDirect uses some other settings for paper but I have been unsuccessful in finding an option in the Web JetAdmin system that I've installed. The printer uses the same cable that worked when it was directly attached to the windows system. Can anybody point me in the right direction what to do now? TIAWell, changing the Auto setting in the configuration dialog in Web JetAdminto MLC (not Birectional) did the trick. - the DJ895 was bidirectional,wasn't it? Curious...--Mit freundlichen Grüßen/with kind regardsChristian Dürrhauer, Institute of Geography, FU BerlinDanger - if you meet it promptly and without flinching - you will reducethe danger by half. Never run away from anything. Never! - Sir WinstonLeonard Spencer Churchill

[Patrick D]

On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 15:06:29 GMT, ben_myers_spam_me_not <@ charter.net>
wrote:
Your finding, to set up the JetDirect as not bi-directional, is a bit bit of information for future use by others... Ben Myers

not really new

I used various DJxxx on Jetdirect and I always disabled bi-dir to make
them work

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[Ben Myers]

New for me, Patrick. But then I only get involved with DeskJets when my clients
buy them elsewhere and have beaucoup difficulty getting them to do what is
required... Ben Myers

On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 19:07:40 +0100, Patrick D
<patrickr.dubois.don't.spam@free.fr> wrote:
On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 15:06:29 GMT, ben_myers_spam_me_not <@ charter.net>wrote: Your finding, to set up the JetDirect as not bi-directional, is a bit bit of information for future use by others... Ben Myersnot really newI used various DJxxx on Jetdirect and I always disabled bi-dir to makethem work--* remove '.don't.spam' and '.invalid' from my eMail address if you want towrite me ** enlevez '.don't.spam' et '.invalid' de mon adresse eMail si vous voulezm'écrire *

[Christian =?ISO-8859-1?Q?D=FCrrhauer?=]

And on the seventh day, Ben Myers wrote...
Not really curious. "Bi-directional" for a parallel port printer implies that it is communicating directly with a computer at the other end of the cable. Neither the host printer drivers nor the JetDirect firmware apparently have the sophistication necessary to emulate correctly the bi-directional parallel protocol. This is typical of the lower priced HP DeskJets, with which HP makes every attempt to prevent using them as networked printers. It is only the more expensive DeskJets like the 1200- and 2000-series that HP "allows" to be networked. In the meantime, yours and other workarounds allow people to connect up the cheaper DeskJets for essentially casual networked use, either in a home or a smallish office. Your finding, to set up the JetDirect as not bi-directional, is a bit bit of information for future use by others... Ben Myers

Thanks for your input, Ben and Patrick. I agree. I have to say, though,
that the DJ895CXi was the most expensive lower-priced Deskjet ever produced
by HP, costing me about 350-400 US-$.

--
Mit freundlichen Grüßen/with kind regards
Christian Dürrhauer, Institute of Geography, FU Berlin

Danger - if you meet it promptly and without flinching - you will reduce
the danger by half. Never run away from anything. Never! - Sir Winston
Leonard Spencer Churchill

[Ben Myers]

Yes, the 895CXi is best described as an expensive low-end printer, at least as
sold and supported by HP... Ben

On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 23:30:37 +0100, Christian =?ISO-8859-1?Q?D=FCrrhauer?=
<cduerr@geog.fu-berlin.de> wrote:
And on the seventh day, Ben Myers wrote... Not really curious. "Bi-directional" for a parallel port printer implies that it is communicating directly with a computer at the other end of the cable. Neither the host printer drivers nor the JetDirect firmware apparently have the sophistication necessary to emulate correctly the bi-directional parallel protocol. This is typical of the lower priced HP DeskJets, with which HP makes every attempt to prevent using them as networked printers. It is only the more expensive DeskJets like the 1200- and 2000-series that HP "allows" to be networked. In the meantime, yours and other workarounds allow people to connect up the cheaper DeskJets for essentially casual networked use, either in a home or a smallish office. Your finding, to set up the JetDirect as not bi-directional, is a bit bit of information for future use by others... Ben MyersThanks for your input, Ben and Patrick. I agree. I have to say, though,that the DJ895CXi was the most expensive lower-priced Deskjet ever producedby HP, costing me about 350-400 US-$.--Mit freundlichen Grüßen/with kind regardsChristian Dürrhauer, Institute of Geography, FU BerlinDanger - if you meet it promptly and without flinching - you will reducethe danger by half. Never run away from anything. Never! - Sir WinstonLeonard Spencer Churchill

[Patrick D]

On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 23:30:37 +0100, Christian Dürrhauer
<cduerr@geog.fu-berlin.de> wrote:

Thanks for your input, Ben and Patrick. I agree. I have to say, though, that the DJ895CXi was the most expensive lower-priced Deskjet ever produced by HP, costing me about 350-400 US-$.

oh, now, the first Deskjet we purchase in 1992 costs about 6000 Frs
( about 1000 USD)

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[Ben Myers]

Yes, and the old DeskJet 550c is one of the inkjet devices which be shared
pretty easily in most Windows environments. Why? Because after the early
DeskJets, HP's marketing took over and began to segment the DeskJets into
low-end and high-end products. The low-end products are difficult to share.
The high-end products generally are not, but they do not always produce higher
quality printing... Ben Myers

On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 09:05:51 +0100, Patrick D
<patrickr.dubois.don't.spam@free.fr> wrote:
On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 23:30:37 +0100, Christian Dürrhauer<cduerr@geog.fu-berlin.de> wrote: Thanks for your input, Ben and Patrick. I agree. I have to say, though, that the DJ895CXi was the most expensive lower-priced Deskjet ever produced by HP, costing me about 350-400 US-$.oh, now, the first Deskjet we purchase in 1992 costs about 6000 Frs( about 1000 USD)--* remove '.don't.spam' and '.invalid' from my eMail address if you want towrite me ** enlevez '.don't.spam' et '.invalid' de mon adresse eMail si vous voulezm'écrire *