Changing Account Name

[Rex's Mom]

I think this was previously discussed, but when I tried to
open it, it said 'expired'.

I want to change an account name from aaaa to bbbb. Do not
want to change anything else about it.

Looked in help and found nothing.

Using Quicken Deluxe 2003.

Any problems, negative ramifications?

TIA
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Rex's Mom

Rex's Mom wrote: I think this was previously discussed, but when I tried to open it, it said 'expired'.

No comprende.
I want to change an account name from aaaa to bbbb. Do not want to change anything else about it. Looked in help and found nothing. Using Quicken Deluxe 2003. Any problems, negative ramifications?

Doing this should not break anything in Quicken; everywhere the
old name was used, the new name should be used.

If you have a situation where bbbb, Inc purchased aaaa, Inc.,
say, and you wanted to continue see all your historical aaaa,
Inc. transactions reflect that they occurred when the company
was named aaaa, Inc. you would lose that ability; as far as I
know, that is the only possible downside.

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[Andrew]

John Pollard wrote: Rex's Mom wrote: I think this was previously discussed, but when I tried to open it, it said 'expired'. No comprende. I want to change an account name from aaaa to bbbb. Do not want to change anything else about it. Looked in help and found nothing. Using Quicken Deluxe 2003. Any problems, negative ramifications? Doing this should not break anything in Quicken; everywhere the old name was used, the new name should be used. If you have a situation where bbbb, Inc purchased aaaa, Inc., say, and you wanted to continue see all your historical aaaa, Inc. transactions reflect that they occurred when the company was named aaaa, Inc. you would lose that ability; as far as I know, that is the only possible downside.

John - you must have had a bad day :-)

First, re/"No comprende.". I think what he was trying to say was that he
had a local copy of the newsgroup's titles in his newsreader, but never
actually downloaded the text of a post that might have had a thread or
discussion about his problem. But when he clicked on the title to receive
it from the server, it had
expired off (typically happens more than 2 or 3 days old for those of us on
Optimum Online.) - the error probably indeed was the message "expired" off
the server.

Secondly, about "changing the name of the account". The op said "Do not
want to change anything else about it. Looked in help and found nothing.".
I'm not sure (here I admit I'm not quite as certain) if the OP even *knows*
how to change the account name....never mind any ramifications. So, assuming
that's one of his problems, here goes. But I'm using Q05D, but I don't
think it's changed since Q03. Hit ACCOUNTS on the top action bar, highlight
the one whose name you wish to change in the pop up dialog box, then hit
EDIT in the action bar. One of the entries allows you to change the name of
the account.

Hope this helps!

Regards -

- Andrew

[Rex's Mom]

Andrew wrote:
John Pollard wrote:Rex's Mom wrote:I think this was previously discussed, but when I tried toopen it, it said 'expired'.No comprende.I want to change an account name from aaaa to bbbb. Do notwant to change anything else about it.Looked in help and found nothing.Using Quicken Deluxe 2003.Any problems, negative ramifications?Doing this should not break anything in Quicken; everywhere theold name was used, the new name should be used.If you have a situation where bbbb, Inc purchased aaaa, Inc.,say, and you wanted to continue see all your historical aaaa,Inc. transactions reflect that they occurred when the companywas named aaaa, Inc. you would lose that ability; as far as Iknow, that is the only possible downside. John - you must have had a bad day :-) First, re/"No comprende.". I think what he was trying to say was that he had a local copy of the newsgroup's titles in his newsreader, but never actually downloaded the text of a post that might have had a thread or discussion about his problem. But when he clicked on the title to receive it from the server, it had expired off (typically happens more than 2 or 3 days old for those of us on Optimum Online.) - the error probably indeed was the message "expired" off the server.
That is precisely what I was describing.
Secondly, about "changing the name of the account". The op said "Do not want to change anything else about it. Looked in help and found nothing.". I'm not sure (here I admit I'm not quite as certain) if the OP even *knows* how to change the account name....never mind any ramifications. So, assuming that's one of his problems, here goes. But I'm using Q05D, but I don't think it's changed since Q03. Hit ACCOUNTS on the top action bar, highlight the one whose name you wish to change in the pop up dialog box, then hit EDIT in the action bar. One of the entries allows you to change the name of the account.
The OP most definitely knows how to change a name having
been a user of Quicken since 1989!

The query which may have been answered by John is, for
example, if at the last back-up it was called aaa, but now
it is called bbb could I restore aaa? and would it try to
install into a 'new' account or would there be a way to
restore into bbb?
Hope this helps! Regards - - Andrew


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Rex's Mom

[Rex's Mom]

John Pollard wrote:
Rex's Mom wrote:I think this was previously discussed, but when I tried toopen it, it said 'expired'. No comprende.
See either Andrew's response or mine to him. He got it
right on this one.I want to change an account name from aaaa to bbbb. Do notwant to change anything else about it.Looked in help and found nothing.Using Quicken Deluxe 2003.Any problems, negative ramifications? Doing this should not break anything in Quicken; everywhere the old name was used, the new name should be used. If you have a situation where bbbb, Inc purchased aaaa, Inc., say, and you wanted to continue see all your historical aaaa, Inc. transactions reflect that they occurred when the company was named aaaa, Inc. you would lose that ability; as far as I know, that is the only possible downside.

The change desired is more cosmetic than anything else. The
current account on disk has multiple years of transactions,
so a fair bit of history is in the 'current' record.

There are transfers into and out of the account, so
effectively a 'category' would no longer be valid.

Plus, it would, I believe, effectively mean that the most
recent backup would not restore into the re-named account
rather only into the former name.

Probably creating a problem when it is not really necessary,
but just wanted to know the what/ifs.


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Rex's Mom

Rex's Mom wrote: John Pollard wrote: Rex's Mom wrote: I think this was previously discussed, but when I tried to open it, it said 'expired'. No comprende. See either Andrew's response or mine to him. He got it right on this one.

Sorry, I have never seen anything like what Andrew described.
I want to change an account name from aaaa to bbbb. Do not want to change anything else about it. Looked in help and found nothing. Using Quicken Deluxe 2003. Any problems, negative ramifications? Doing this should not break anything in Quicken; everywhere the old name was used, the new name should be used. If you have a situation where bbbb, Inc purchased aaaa, Inc., say, and you wanted to continue see all your historical aaaa, Inc. transactions reflect that they occurred when the company was named aaaa, Inc. you would lose that ability; as far as I know, that is the only possible downside. The change desired is more cosmetic than anything else. The current account on disk has multiple years of transactions, so a fair bit of history is in the 'current' record. There are transfers into and out of the account, so effectively a 'category' would no longer be valid.

Changing the account name aaaa to bbbb will change all
references to category [aaaa] to [bbbb]: your Quicken file will
remain logically consistent.
Plus, it would, I believe, effectively mean that the most recent backup would not restore into the re-named account rather only into the former name.

I think your wording is somewhat distorting what you would
actually face. Quicken does not retain any part of the file
that is restored over; when you restore you completely replace
Quicken data fileset A with the backup of Quicken data fileset
A.

What would happen is that if the backup you restored from was
dated earlier than your change of account aaaa to bbbb, then you
would wind up back where you were before you made the account
name change (while still keeping the data logically consistent)
.... but this is true for lots of other data as well, like all
the transactions you entered or downloaded between the time you
made the backup and the time you restored it. Still, speaking
only of the account name change; if you restored a file that
undid your change, it would be as simple to redo the change as
it was to make it in the first place.
Probably creating a problem when it is not really necessary, but just wanted to know the what/ifs.

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[Rex's Mom]

John Pollard wrote: Rex's Mom wrote:John Pollard wrote:Rex's Mom wrote:>I think this was previously discussed, but when I tried to>open it, it said 'expired'.No comprende.See either Andrew's response or mine to him. He got itright on this one. Sorry, I have never seen anything like what Andrew described.
If you've never faced this, then might I ask how you
read/subscribe to Newsservers/newsgroups? All of mine
'expire' at some point. Did notice that the cable run
newsservers seem to have a short life...I am using another
newsserver to get more time to review the questions/answers.>I want to change an account name from aaaa to bbbb. Do not>want to change anything else about it.>>Looked in help and found nothing.>>Using Quicken Deluxe 2003.>>Any problems, negative ramifications?Doing this should not break anything in Quicken; everywherethe old name was used, the new name should be used.If you have a situation where bbbb, Inc purchased aaaa,Inc.,say, and you wanted to continue see all your historicalaaaa,Inc. transactions reflect that they occurred when thecompanywas named aaaa, Inc. you would lose that ability; as far asIknow, that is the only possible downside.The change desired is more cosmetic than anything else. Thecurrent account on disk has multiple years of transactions,so a fair bit of history is in the 'current' record.There are transfers into and out of the account, soeffectively a 'category' would no longer be valid. Changing the account name aaaa to bbbb will change all references to category [aaaa] to [bbbb]: your Quicken file will remain logically consistent.Plus, it would, I believe, effectively mean that the mostrecent backup would not restore into the re-named accountrather only into the former name. I think your wording is somewhat distorting what you would actually face. Quicken does not retain any part of the file that is restored over; when you restore you completely replace Quicken data fileset A with the backup of Quicken data fileset A. What would happen is that if the backup you restored from was dated earlier than your change of account aaaa to bbbb, then you would wind up back where you were before you made the account name change (while still keeping the data logically consistent) ... but this is true for lots of other data as well, like all the transactions you entered or downloaded between the time you made the backup and the time you restored it. Still, speaking only of the account name change; if you restored a file that undid your change, it would be as simple to redo the change as it was to make it in the first place.Probably creating a problem when it is not really necessary,but just wanted to know the what/ifs.
Thanks John for clarifications/confirmation. It has become
my habit to do a backup (I actually use Windows type backup
rather than Q's, but that is irrelevant for the moment)
every week. So...I shall change the name before the backup
and then the one I would want to restore would be the new name.

Also, thanks for the response re: category.

Sorry for my wording being difficult/distorting of the
issue...but you managed to work through it anyway - thanks.
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Rex's Mom

Rex's Mom wrote:
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Sorry, I have never seen anything like what Andrew described. If you've never faced this, then might I ask how you read/subscribe to Newsservers/newsgroups? All of mine 'expire' at some point. Did notice that the cable run newsservers seem to have a short life...I am using another newsserver to get more time to review the questions/answers.

I am not sure how to answer your question. I use Bellsouth for
my ISP, I use Outlook Express for my newsreader. I never see
anything like you and Andrew describe ... thankfully, I suppose.
I have never sought to avoid what you refer to; I suppose
because I never really even thought about it.

I have postings going back to Nov 20, 2004 as we speak; I have
never worried too much about the details ... if I have not read
and/or responded to something within that time, I suppose I
never will. But I never get notified that there is a posting
that I do not have access to - at least not that I remember.

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[Andrew]

John Pollard wrote:
Sorry, I have never seen anything like what Andrew described.

Wait a second John! You're the one who pointed me to News.Individual.NET in
Germany because in August I was complainng about the amount of days a post
expires on OPTONLINE, remember?

Here's a portion of that discussion:

Andrew wrote:

John Pollard wrote:
Try news.individual.net; free and they seem to keep posts for at least 30 days. You will have to wait a week or two after applying before you can begin pos tingandreceivingposts.

And I still thank you for it!
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Regards -

- Andrew

Andrew wrote: John Pollard wrote: > Sorry, I have never seen anything like what Andrew > described. Wait a second John! You're the one who pointed me to News.Individual.NET in Germany because in August I was complainng about the amount of days a post expires on OPTONLINE, remember? Here's a portion of that discussion: Andrew wrote: John Pollard wrote: Try news.individual.net; free and they seem to keep posts for at least 30 days. You will have to wait a week or two after applying before you can begin pos tingandreceivingposts. And I still thank you for it! --

Well, you're right, I did recommend news.individual.net and I
have had problems with my ISP's newserver; I've just never seen
anything saying a post had expired. Sometimes I am unable to
send/receive, but I just have never seen that specific wording
(or anything resembling it) before.

When I am able to send/receive, I seem to have all the posts
available that I need or want. I'm not really sure what it
signifies that I never see this notification. Maybe I am
dropping old posts from my newsreader before my ISP is dropping
them from their server?

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[Mike Blake-Knox]

In article <wemud.110952$7i4.70577@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
Rex's Mom wrote: if at the last back-up it was called aaa, but now it is called bbb could I restore aaa? and would it try to install into a 'new' account or would there be a way to restore into bbb?

Quicken keeps all your accounts in several windows files that we're
calling a fileset. Quicken (before Q2005 anyway) doesn't provide a
mechanism to restore anything other than a complete fileset. If you
restore from a backup you will have the account restored with whatever
name was being used when the backup was made.

Also, remember that renaming an account changes the name everywhere in
Quicken. Renaming the account doesn't split the account in any way so
that categorization of transactions in the account are not changed.
Any/all transactions transferring funds to or from the account are
maintained. As a result, a transaction in account ccc register that
originally transferred $10 from ccc to account aaa will now show $10
transferred from ccc to bbb.

Hope this helps

Mike

[Jeff]

One of the Q2005 files (QDF) is listed as a Data file. What are the other
files (IDX, QEL, QPH,, FXLOG.dat) for?

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"Mike Blake-Knox" <mikebkdontspam@Intrex.net> wrote in message
news:VA.00000187.04857d91@intrex.net... In article <wemud.110952$7i4.70577@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, Rex's Mom wrote: if at the last back-up it was called aaa, but now it is called bbb could I restore aaa? and would it try to install into a 'new' account or would there be a way to restore into bbb? Quicken keeps all your accounts in several windows files that we're calling a fileset. Quicken (before Q2005 anyway) doesn't provide a mechanism to restore anything other than a complete fileset. If you restore from a backup you will have the account restored with whatever name was being used when the backup was made. Also, remember that renaming an account changes the name everywhere in Quicken. Renaming the account doesn't split the account in any way so that categorization of transactions in the account are not changed. Any/all transactions transferring funds to or from the account are maintained. As a result, a transaction in account ccc register that originally transferred $10 from ccc to account aaa will now show $10 transferred from ccc to bbb. Hope this helps Mike