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K a h K e e N a n g
08-14-2003, 07:27 AM
Is 1 000 000bytes equal to 1MB? Thanks

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The little lost angel
08-14-2003, 11:46 AM
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 23:27:33 +0800, "K a h K e e N a n g"
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Is 1 000 000bytes equal to 1MB? Thanks

Maybe, maybe not.
It depends on whether you're Microsoft or Hard Disk Manufacturer
:PppPp

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08-14-2003, 11:58 AM
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here is a web 'bit calulator' converter

http://www.matisse.net/mcgi-bin/bits.cgi

Jason Bowen
08-14-2003, 12:03 PM
In article <3f3be6df.193453361@news.pacific.net.sg>,
The little lost angel <me> wrote:On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 23:27:33 +0800, "K a h K e e N a n g"<nospam@emails.com> wrote:Is 1 000 000bytes equal to 1MB? ThanksMaybe, maybe not.It depends on whether you're Microsoft or Hard Disk Manufacturer:PppPp

It's not a Microsoft vs the World type of thing. For whatever reason hard
drive manufacturers go by ^10 and the rest of the computing world uses
binary ^2.

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Bjorn
08-14-2003, 03:25 PM
1 Mb=1024^2 byte

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Rob Stow
08-14-2003, 05:40 PM
Bjorn wrote: 1 Mb=1024^2 byte

No.

1 MB = 8 Mb = 1024^2 Bytes

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Bracken
08-15-2003, 10:50 PM
K a h K e e N a n g wrote:
Is 1 000 000bytes equal to 1MB? Thanks

Yes, those hard drive makers really do sell hard drives that are smaller
than they appear to be. Even my 486's 850mb hard drive was really 815mb

4bits = 1byte
1024 bytes = 1 kilobyte
1024 kilobytes = 1 megabyte
1024 megabytes = 1 gigabyte

Dean Kent
08-15-2003, 11:34 PM
"path" <no@spam.spam> wrote in message news:3F3DD452.A0D268F2@spam.spam... K a h K e e N a n g wrote: Is 1 000 000bytes equal to 1MB? Thanks Yes, those hard drive makers really do sell hard drives that are smaller than they appear to be. Even my 486's 850mb hard drive was really 815mb

They call it 'unformatted' and 'formatted' capacity, but it really just
means HD manufacturers aren't using base 2 in their calculations, but base
10 (1000 vs 1024).
4bits = 1byte 1024 bytes = 1 kilobyte 1024 kilobytes = 1 megabyte 1024 megabytes = 1 gigabyte

8 bits in a byte. Use base 2 for memory size calculations: 2^10 = 1KB,
2^20 bytes = 1MB, 2^30 bytes is 1GB, 2^40 bytes is 1TB, etc.

Regards,
Dean

Rob Stow
08-15-2003, 11:35 PM
path wrote: K a h K e e N a n g wrote:Is 1 000 000bytes equal to 1MB? Thanks Yes, those hard drive makers really do sell hard drives that are smaller than they appear to be. Even my 486's 850mb hard drive was really 815mb 4bits = 1byte

Actually, on this planet we use 8 bits = 1 byte.
People who try to be cute sometimes say 4 bits = 1 nibble.
1024 bytes = 1 kilobyte 1024 kilobytes = 1 megabyte 1024 megabytes = 1 gigabyte

Dean Kent
08-16-2003, 07:21 AM
"Rob Stow" <rob.stow@sasktel.net> wrote in message
news:vjrnmcfnqtkm82@corp.supernews.com... Actually, on this planet we use 8 bits = 1 byte. People who try to be cute sometimes say 4 bits = 1 nibble.

Actually, it isn't 'being cute'. It represents a single hex digit. There
are some situations where nibbles are used to convert to/from small decimal
values and hex digits for various purposes, such as printing and
displaying - and possibly other purposes.

Regards,
Dean

George Macdonald
08-17-2003, 11:30 PM
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 23:27:33 +0800, "K a h K e e N a n g"
<nospam@emails.com> wrote:
Is 1 000 000bytes equal to 1MB? Thanks

Uhh, it depends.... on who you are and whether you want to follow the
fairly recently "established" standards of the SI and IEC which you can see
here: <http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html>. Personally I always
feel stupid saying Mebibyte - sounds too much like maybebyte.... maybe it
is and maybe it isn't.:-)

Apart from that, as others have said, within the computer industry, disk
drive mfrs have traditionally used 1MB = 1 000 000. The worst was with
floppy disks back in the days when some had hard sectoring and some soft
sectoring - the former actually had multiple holes around the hub hole to
mark the sectors.

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??

George Macdonald
08-17-2003, 11:30 PM
On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 01:35:09 -0600, Rob Stow <rob.stow@sasktel.net> wrote:
path wrote: K a h K e e N a n g wrote:Is 1 000 000bytes equal to 1MB? Thanks Yes, those hard drive makers really do sell hard drives that are smaller than they appear to be. Even my 486's 850mb hard drive was really 815mb 4bits = 1byteActually, on this planet we use 8 bits = 1 byte.

I see the term octet creeping in more and more. Are the French still
running the SI?:-)
People who try to be cute sometimes say 4 bits = 1 nibble.

But is 2-bits a dibble or a dibit?:-)

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??

Tony Hill
08-18-2003, 06:32 PM
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 23:27:33 +0800, "K a h K e e N a n g"
<nospam@emails.com> wrote:Is 1 000 000bytes equal to 1MB? Thanks

The "official" definition of Megabyte (MB), as defined by the SI
people, is 1,000,000 bytes. However, the de-facto standard definition
of Megabyte for everyone other than hard drive manufacturers is 2^20,
or 1,048,576 bytes. The SI people refer to this as a Mibibyte (MiB),
but you'll have a heck of a time finding anyone in the real-world who
uses that term.

For all practical purposes, 1MB = 1,048,576 bytes unless your buying a
hard drive, in which case it's 1,000,000 bytes.

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Keith R. Williams
08-18-2003, 06:40 PM
In article <3f4072ec.155855674@news.tellurian.com>, fammacd=!
SPAM^nothanks@tellurian.com says... On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 01:35:09 -0600, Rob Stow <rob.stow@sasktel.net> wrote:path wrote: K a h K e e N a n g wrote:>Is 1 000 000bytes equal to 1MB? Thanks Yes, those hard drive makers really do sell hard drives that are smaller than they appear to be. Even my 486's 850mb hard drive was really 815mb 4bits = 1byteActually, on this planet we use 8 bits = 1 byte. I see the term octet creeping in more and more. Are the French still running the SI?:-)

Perhaps. However, a "byte" isn't technically eight bits. A
"byte" is more or less the equivalent of a "character". The term
"octet" is used to make the distinction of an eight-bit unit.People who try to be cute sometimes say 4 bits = 1 nibble.

Actually, it's known as a nibble (as in byte(.
But is 2-bits a dibble or a dibit?:-)

Late enough into the evening (or before the first few sips of
morning coffee) it could be a dribble, but I've always heard is
as a dibit (perhaps better: a Dilbit?).

Then again, octal systems have always had Trouble With Tribbles.

....or perhaps I should stop now? ;-)

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George Macdonald
08-19-2003, 01:11 AM
On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 22:40:57 -0400, Keith R. Williams <krw@attglobal.net>
wrote:
In article <3f4072ec.155855674@news.tellurian.com>, fammacd=!SPAM^nothanks@tellurian.com says... On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 01:35:09 -0600, Rob Stow <rob.stow@sasktel.net> wrote:path wrote:> K a h K e e N a n g wrote:>>>>Is 1 000 000bytes equal to 1MB? Thanks>>> Yes, those hard drive makers really do sell hard drives that are smaller> than they appear to be. Even my 486's 850mb hard drive was really 815mb>> 4bits = 1byteActually, on this planet we use 8 bits = 1 byte. I see the term octet creeping in more and more. Are the French still running the SI?:-)Perhaps. However, a "byte" isn't technically eight bits. A"byte" is more or less the equivalent of a "character". The term"octet" is used to make the distinction of an eight-bit unit.

Yeah I see what you mean - CDC lingered (and labored) with the 6-bit byte
for quite a few years and Univac had its quarter-word character which,
AFAIK, they never actually called a 9-bit byte. Then again we have DBCS...
kinda confusing for a neophyte.:-)

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??

Keith R. Williams
08-19-2003, 06:23 PM
In article <3f41c030.241183965@news.tellurian.com>, fammacd=!
SPAM^nothanks@tellurian.com says... On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 22:40:57 -0400, Keith R. Williams <krw@attglobal.net> wrote:In article <3f4072ec.155855674@news.tellurian.com>, fammacd=!SPAM^nothanks@tellurian.com says... On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 01:35:09 -0600, Rob Stow <rob.stow@sasktel.net> wrote: >path wrote: >> K a h K e e N a n g wrote: >> >> >>>Is 1 000 000bytes equal to 1MB? Thanks >> >> >> Yes, those hard drive makers really do sell hard drives that are smaller >> than they appear to be. Even my 486's 850mb hard drive was really 815mb >> >> 4bits = 1byte > >Actually, on this planet we use 8 bits = 1 byte. I see the term octet creeping in more and more. Are the French still running the SI?:-)Perhaps. However, a "byte" isn't technically eight bits. A"byte" is more or less the equivalent of a "character". The term"octet" is used to make the distinction of an eight-bit unit. Yeah I see what you mean - CDC lingered (and labored) with the 6-bit byte for quite a few years and Univac had its quarter-word character which, AFAIK, they never actually called a 9-bit byte. Then again we have DBCS... kinda confusing for a neophyte.:-)

Well, if one thinks of a "byte" as the smallest addressable unit
things might be a little simpler? Oops, then there is the
original Alpha (only word addressing, AIUI). ;-)

As much as I'm a frog-o-phobe (it's freedom-toast for this one;-)
the term "octet" is explicit.

DBCS? That's for people who have an alphabet too screwed up to
fit into a reasonable number of bits, and who want to screw up
all of humanity by insisting on their stupid alphabet! ;-)
Perhaps it should be DOCS? ;-))

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