Xbox2 to get PS3 technology?

[JamesA]

Heh, its from Inquirer so it means you need to aquire a truckload of salt.

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=12523

Xbox2 vies with PS3 technology

One ring to rule them all


By Arron Rouse: Wednesday 05 November 2003, 16:57

THERE'S SOMETHING STRANGE about Microsoft's choice of IBM to make its
processors for the Xbox 2. You might think that it's a reasonable choice but
it brings up more questions than most analysts are going to be comfortable
with. Many have immediately jumped on the idea that the Xbox 2 will use a
PowerPC variant processor at its heart but that's far from the only option.
The biggest spanner in the works could be the Sony/Toshiba/IBM Cell
processor.
The most curious thing about the choice of IBM is that the firm is already
producing processors for Nintendo and is designing the next generation of
'Cell' processors for the Playstation 3. So IBM effectively knows what all
of the key players are up to, something that might not sit comfortably with
the CEOs of the three main console firms.

Route G5
It's tempting to think that IBM will be supplying Microsoft with a modified
PowerPC chip for the Xbox 2. The new G5 series of 64bit processors being
used in the latest Apple Macs certainly has shown good performance but there
would be a huge number of problems for Microsoft in switching to that
architecture.

Microsoft would need to port the latest version of its Xbox operating system
to PowerPC; after all, even consoles need an operating system. That would be
a large task just by itself. Then there are the problems of backwards
compatibility, even the latest G5 probably couldn't run an x86 emulator fast
enough to play games from the original Xbox.

Opter In
Then there's the AMD side of the equation, it has been thick as thieves with
IBM in the production of its AMD64 technology processors. Big Blue would
almost certainly have no problems buying permission from AMD to produce an
Opteron/Athlon 64 based processor, it might well have that permission
already.

An AMD64 based processor makes much more sense than a PowerPC one. Microsoft
already has an operating system that works on that architecture and
backwards compatibility with the current Xbox would be no problem. Microsoft
has contracted Sis to produce the IO chip for the system and that firm
already produces a chipset for the Athlon 64. It all looks like the logical
answer but then there's that spanner in the works.

The Real Threat
The biggest firm in console gaming by far is Sony with its Playstation 2.
The juiciest leaks that have appeared about the Cell processor put that
architecture a country mile ahead of any other mainstream processor
performance wise. It looks likely to offer capabilities that will be well
beyond the AMD64 and PowerPC variants when it is released, even taking into
account the latter processors improving considerably over the next couple of
years.

That leaves Microsoft with a big problem. If it chooses PowerPC or AMD64, it
might end up trying to sell an Xbox 2 that at best offers only half the
performance of the Playstation 3. A far from appetising thought.

But then you need to think about just why IBM and Toshiba are involved with
the Cell processor in the first place. Both firms are aiming to use it in
high-power multiprocessor systems. In theory at least, both firms could
supply Cell processor systems to whichever companies they liked. So then you
end up with the last major possibility, that Microsoft could well have
chosen IBM to manufacture processors for the Xbox 2 because it has somehow
persuaded the firm to supply Cell processors for the new system.

There're no two ways around it, Sony would be livid if that was the case but
it would also be stuck. Microsoft has more than enough money to step into
the breach if Sony decided to walk away from dealing with IBM over that
happening. That's something Sony couldn't afford to allow because it would
mean the firm scrabbling around trying to find a replacement architecture
and Xbox 2 getting the Cell technology all to itself, with all that entails.

Conclusion
Sitting pretty in the middle of all this is IBM. Whichever way things go it
will be getting money from all parties. It effectively has the One Ring to
rule them all. It's doubtful that Microsoft will manage to get its claws
into the Cell technology but far from impossible. You can lay a bet that
Sony's lawyers are looking at its contract with IBM very carefully indeed at
the moment. µ

[jesse the troll]

fag this is 2003 almost 2004 and technology upgrades fast, so why are you
comparing today's processor with future processors like the "cell" you
fucking dimwit
"JamesA" <jaj2227@mail.com> wrote in message
news:NiSqb.14025$8x2.6755896@newssrv26.news.prodigy.com... Heh, its from Inquirer so it means you need to aquire a truckload of salt. http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=12523 Xbox2 vies with PS3 technology One ring to rule them all By Arron Rouse: Wednesday 05 November 2003, 16:57 THERE'S SOMETHING STRANGE about Microsoft's choice of IBM to make its processors for the Xbox 2. You might think that it's a reasonable choice
but it brings up more questions than most analysts are going to be comfortable with. Many have immediately jumped on the idea that the Xbox 2 will use a PowerPC variant processor at its heart but that's far from the only
option. The biggest spanner in the works could be the Sony/Toshiba/IBM Cell processor. The most curious thing about the choice of IBM is that the firm is already producing processors for Nintendo and is designing the next generation of 'Cell' processors for the Playstation 3. So IBM effectively knows what all of the key players are up to, something that might not sit comfortably
with the CEOs of the three main console firms. Route G5 It's tempting to think that IBM will be supplying Microsoft with a
modified PowerPC chip for the Xbox 2. The new G5 series of 64bit processors being used in the latest Apple Macs certainly has shown good performance but
there would be a huge number of problems for Microsoft in switching to that architecture. Microsoft would need to port the latest version of its Xbox operating
system to PowerPC; after all, even consoles need an operating system. That would
be a large task just by itself. Then there are the problems of backwards compatibility, even the latest G5 probably couldn't run an x86 emulator
fast enough to play games from the original Xbox. Opter In Then there's the AMD side of the equation, it has been thick as thieves
with IBM in the production of its AMD64 technology processors. Big Blue would almost certainly have no problems buying permission from AMD to produce an Opteron/Athlon 64 based processor, it might well have that permission already. An AMD64 based processor makes much more sense than a PowerPC one.
Microsoft already has an operating system that works on that architecture and backwards compatibility with the current Xbox would be no problem.
Microsoft has contracted Sis to produce the IO chip for the system and that firm already produces a chipset for the Athlon 64. It all looks like the
logical answer but then there's that spanner in the works. The Real Threat The biggest firm in console gaming by far is Sony with its Playstation 2. The juiciest leaks that have appeared about the Cell processor put that architecture a country mile ahead of any other mainstream processor performance wise. It looks likely to offer capabilities that will be well beyond the AMD64 and PowerPC variants when it is released, even taking
into account the latter processors improving considerably over the next couple
of years. That leaves Microsoft with a big problem. If it chooses PowerPC or AMD64,
it might end up trying to sell an Xbox 2 that at best offers only half the performance of the Playstation 3. A far from appetising thought. But then you need to think about just why IBM and Toshiba are involved
with the Cell processor in the first place. Both firms are aiming to use it in high-power multiprocessor systems. In theory at least, both firms could supply Cell processor systems to whichever companies they liked. So then
you end up with the last major possibility, that Microsoft could well have chosen IBM to manufacture processors for the Xbox 2 because it has somehow persuaded the firm to supply Cell processors for the new system. There're no two ways around it, Sony would be livid if that was the case
but it would also be stuck. Microsoft has more than enough money to step into the breach if Sony decided to walk away from dealing with IBM over that happening. That's something Sony couldn't afford to allow because it would mean the firm scrabbling around trying to find a replacement architecture and Xbox 2 getting the Cell technology all to itself, with all that
entails. Conclusion Sitting pretty in the middle of all this is IBM. Whichever way things go
it will be getting money from all parties. It effectively has the One Ring to rule them all. It's doubtful that Microsoft will manage to get its claws into the Cell technology but far from impossible. You can lay a bet that Sony's lawyers are looking at its contract with IBM very carefully indeed
at the moment. µ

[Steven C \(Doktersteve\)]

haha.
guess it also has gamecube technology too huh? I mean, the cube has a power
pc based chip in it lol.

Hey, did you hear the xbox2 will be able to run itunes and idvd? and its
also can run OS X...
after all, its got that Mac based chip in it.

lol.

"JamesA" <jaj2227@mail.com> wrote in message
news:NiSqb.14025$8x2.6755896@newssrv26.news.prodigy.com... Heh, its from Inquirer so it means you need to aquire a truckload of salt. http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=12523 Xbox2 vies with PS3 technology One ring to rule them all By Arron Rouse: Wednesday 05 November 2003, 16:57 THERE'S SOMETHING STRANGE about Microsoft's choice of IBM to make its processors for the Xbox 2. You might think that it's a reasonable choice
but it brings up more questions than most analysts are going to be comfortable with. Many have immediately jumped on the idea that the Xbox 2 will use a PowerPC variant processor at its heart but that's far from the only
option. The biggest spanner in the works could be the Sony/Toshiba/IBM Cell processor. The most curious thing about the choice of IBM is that the firm is already producing processors for Nintendo and is designing the next generation of 'Cell' processors for the Playstation 3. So IBM effectively knows what all of the key players are up to, something that might not sit comfortably
with the CEOs of the three main console firms. Route G5 It's tempting to think that IBM will be supplying Microsoft with a
modified PowerPC chip for the Xbox 2. The new G5 series of 64bit processors being used in the latest Apple Macs certainly has shown good performance but
there would be a huge number of problems for Microsoft in switching to that architecture. Microsoft would need to port the latest version of its Xbox operating
system to PowerPC; after all, even consoles need an operating system. That would
be a large task just by itself. Then there are the problems of backwards compatibility, even the latest G5 probably couldn't run an x86 emulator
fast enough to play games from the original Xbox. Opter In Then there's the AMD side of the equation, it has been thick as thieves
with IBM in the production of its AMD64 technology processors. Big Blue would almost certainly have no problems buying permission from AMD to produce an Opteron/Athlon 64 based processor, it might well have that permission already. An AMD64 based processor makes much more sense than a PowerPC one.
Microsoft already has an operating system that works on that architecture and backwards compatibility with the current Xbox would be no problem.
Microsoft has contracted Sis to produce the IO chip for the system and that firm already produces a chipset for the Athlon 64. It all looks like the
logical answer but then there's that spanner in the works. The Real Threat The biggest firm in console gaming by far is Sony with its Playstation 2. The juiciest leaks that have appeared about the Cell processor put that architecture a country mile ahead of any other mainstream processor performance wise. It looks likely to offer capabilities that will be well beyond the AMD64 and PowerPC variants when it is released, even taking
into account the latter processors improving considerably over the next couple
of years. That leaves Microsoft with a big problem. If it chooses PowerPC or AMD64,
it might end up trying to sell an Xbox 2 that at best offers only half the performance of the Playstation 3. A far from appetising thought. But then you need to think about just why IBM and Toshiba are involved
with the Cell processor in the first place. Both firms are aiming to use it in high-power multiprocessor systems. In theory at least, both firms could supply Cell processor systems to whichever companies they liked. So then
you end up with the last major possibility, that Microsoft could well have chosen IBM to manufacture processors for the Xbox 2 because it has somehow persuaded the firm to supply Cell processors for the new system. There're no two ways around it, Sony would be livid if that was the case
but it would also be stuck. Microsoft has more than enough money to step into the breach if Sony decided to walk away from dealing with IBM over that happening. That's something Sony couldn't afford to allow because it would mean the firm scrabbling around trying to find a replacement architecture and Xbox 2 getting the Cell technology all to itself, with all that
entails. Conclusion Sitting pretty in the middle of all this is IBM. Whichever way things go
it will be getting money from all parties. It effectively has the One Ring to rule them all. It's doubtful that Microsoft will manage to get its claws into the Cell technology but far from impossible. You can lay a bet that Sony's lawyers are looking at its contract with IBM very carefully indeed
at the moment. µ

[USAF LM]

Steven C (Doktersteve) wrote: haha. guess it also has gamecube technology too huh? I mean, the cube has a power pc based chip in it lol. Hey, did you hear the xbox2 will be able to run itunes and idvd? and its also can run OS X... after all, its got that Mac based chip in it.

Ah, but if it uses the Cell processor then it will be able to morph into
a butler, a la the evil cyborg in Terminator two. Who will then get you
a beer and go next door to steal your neighbors extra processor cycles
via the revolutionary THUG API. That's where he sticks a pointy sword,
made from his own arm, in their face and takes their PS3. He then
brings it back and system links your PS3 and your new PS3 together. You
and he then spend the rest of the day using your new super computer to
control Saddam's arsenal of ICBM missiles.

This is, of course, straight from Sony's website. Don't have a link
right now.

Of course, we're talking about the Xbox. Well, I just happen to have
access to a secret leaked memo on the possibility of Xbox2 using the
Cell processor.

It's entitled, "Clippy makes a comeback." There's a bunch of crap about
Clippy being an integral part of Longhorn. Something about Clippy
picking up where IE was halted. I don't know. Then there is a post
script that addresses Xbox2 and Cell. It said, and I quote, "We cannot
use Cell technology in Xbox2. If we did, Xbox2 would be so powerful
that it would be a blackhole of processing power. Bloated code, and
small children, would be crushed by its awesome awesomness. However, we
feel this may be necessary as Xbox2 will run on a stripped down version
of BloatCode 2000 XP Home Networking Wireless Barely 18 Securitron Media
edition now with Windows.

Whatever, you know, tech companies use so much techno babble anymore.
Just pick up a video card box. Nvidia and ATI must hire Merriam-Webster
just to make sure they have enough made up words in their description.

I love technobabble and I don't know why.

--
Swi

Load Clear

[Tony Hill]

On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 19:23:25 GMT, "JamesA" <jaj2227@mail.com> wrote:Heh, its from Inquirer so it means you need to aquire a truckload of salt.http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=12523Xbox2 vies with PS3 technologyOne ring to rule them allBy Arron Rouse: Wednesday 05 November 2003, 16:57THERE'S SOMETHING STRANGE about Microsoft's choice of IBM to make itsprocessors for the Xbox 2. You might think that it's a reasonable choice butit brings up more questions than most analysts are going to be comfortablewith. Many have immediately jumped on the idea that the Xbox 2 will use aPowerPC variant processor at its heart but that's far from the only option.The biggest spanner in the works could be the Sony/Toshiba/IBM Cellprocessor.

I doubt that the XBox2 will use this "Cell" chip that IBM is helping
develop. It sounds to me like the Cell is going to be a vector engine
rather than a general purpose processor (though I admit, I don't have
a good grasp on the technical details of the chip). This would make
sense for Sony, who's Emoticon engine is already a vector processor
where they did most of their work, but in the current XBox, most
things are handled by a general purpose processor running Windows and
DirectX. It seems to me like it would be rather difficult (read:
expensive) to switch DirectX to use a vector engine instead of a
standard CPU+GPU combo like they have now.
Route G5It's tempting to think that IBM will be supplying Microsoft with a modifiedPowerPC chip for the Xbox 2. The new G5 series of 64bit processors beingused in the latest Apple Macs certainly has shown good performance but therewould be a huge number of problems for Microsoft in switching to thatarchitecture.

I think that some off-shoot of the PowerPC 970 (aka G5) seems likely,
but there are other options in the PowerPC line-up. They could, for
example, chose to beef up a PowerPC 750 instead. The main upside that
the 970 has now is it's 64-bit capabilities, but those are pretty much
useless on a console. In it's current form the 970 also consumes too
much power (~50W) to be used reliably in a console, though by the time
this chip shrink they will have at least switched to a 90nm fab
process, and possibly even a 65nm process. That should help reign in
power consumption.

Still, my bets are some sort of extension of the 700 series of PowerPC
line, or possibly a bit of a hybrid of the 700 series and the 970.
Microsoft would need to port the latest version of its Xbox operating systemto PowerPC; after all, even consoles need an operating system. That would bea large task just by itself.

Yeah, it would take at least a week.

Windows was designed from the ground up with portability in mind. We
might not actually see much benefit of this as end-users, but the
capabilities are there. Microsoft has ported WinNT to the PowerPC
before, and they can port the NT-based Xbox OS to the PowerPC easily
enough.
Then there are the problems of backwardscompatibility, even the latest G5 probably couldn't run an x86 emulator fastenough to play games from the original Xbox.

Now this is the hard part.
Opter InThen there's the AMD side of the equation, it has been thick as thieves withIBM in the production of its AMD64 technology processors. Big Blue wouldalmost certainly have no problems buying permission from AMD to produce anOpteron/Athlon 64 based processor, it might well have that permissionalready.

Not likely. They also couldn't just drop in an Athlon64 in the XBox,
as the Athlon64 has an integrated memory controller. Pulling that
memory controller out and hanging it off the video controller (where
it belongs in a game console, put the memory where the memory is
needed) wouldn't be that tough, but it would require a reworking of
the die. The Athlon64/Opteron are also rather large, power hungry
parts, not particularly appropriate for a console, though like with
the PowerPC 970 mentioned above, this should improve by the time the
Xbox2 comes to market.
An AMD64 based processor makes much more sense than a PowerPC one. Microsoftalready has an operating system that works on that architecture andbackwards compatibility with the current Xbox would be no problem. Microsofthas contracted Sis to produce the IO chip for the system and that firmalready produces a chipset for the Athlon 64. It all looks like the logicalanswer but then there's that spanner in the works.

ATI is producing the chipset, SiS is just producing the I/O
controller, ie the chip that handles the hard drive, USB ports (aka
joystick ports), ethernet, etc. The real brains are going to be in
the ATI chip, and ATI doesn't currently make an Athlon64 controller.
The Real ThreatThe biggest firm in console gaming by far is Sony with its Playstation 2.The juiciest leaks that have appeared about the Cell processor put thatarchitecture a country mile ahead of any other mainstream processorperformance wise. It looks likely to offer capabilities that will be wellbeyond the AMD64 and PowerPC variants when it is released, even taking intoaccount the latter processors improving considerably over the next couple ofyears.

This "Cell" processor is a real question mark. It's architecture is
quite different from previous chips, and the performance numbers I've
heard from it are rather unreal. If the performance were at all like
some people are rumoring it to be, IBM would have long ago dropped all
plans for their Power6 processor and be moving headlong towards this
"Cell" processor.

Long story short, there are downsides to this chip that aren't seeing
the light of day yet. There have been a LOT of processors before that
were rumors to have absolutely outrageous performance and turned out
to be mediocre at best. I, for one, am not holding my breath for any
earth-shattering performance out of The Cell.

-------------
Tony Hill
hilla <underscore> 20 <at> yahoo <dot> ca

[M3wThr33]

Isn't this from the same guy that said Nintendo was to fail because they
only released one Mario game on the console, completely ignoring the SNES
and N64?

[jesse the troll]

shut up fag
"USAF LM" <Mmmmm@spam.yum> wrote in message
news:3fac761f@news03.toast.net... Steven C (Doktersteve) wrote: haha. guess it also has gamecube technology too huh? I mean, the cube has a
power pc based chip in it lol. Hey, did you hear the xbox2 will be able to run itunes and idvd? and its also can run OS X... after all, its got that Mac based chip in it. Ah, but if it uses the Cell processor then it will be able to morph into a butler, a la the evil cyborg in Terminator two. Who will then get you a beer and go next door to steal your neighbors extra processor cycles via the revolutionary THUG API. That's where he sticks a pointy sword, made from his own arm, in their face and takes their PS3. He then brings it back and system links your PS3 and your new PS3 together. You and he then spend the rest of the day using your new super computer to control Saddam's arsenal of ICBM missiles. This is, of course, straight from Sony's website. Don't have a link right now. Of course, we're talking about the Xbox. Well, I just happen to have access to a secret leaked memo on the possibility of Xbox2 using the Cell processor. It's entitled, "Clippy makes a comeback." There's a bunch of crap about Clippy being an integral part of Longhorn. Something about Clippy picking up where IE was halted. I don't know. Then there is a post script that addresses Xbox2 and Cell. It said, and I quote, "We cannot use Cell technology in Xbox2. If we did, Xbox2 would be so powerful that it would be a blackhole of processing power. Bloated code, and small children, would be crushed by its awesome awesomness. However, we feel this may be necessary as Xbox2 will run on a stripped down version of BloatCode 2000 XP Home Networking Wireless Barely 18 Securitron Media edition now with Windows. Whatever, you know, tech companies use so much techno babble anymore. Just pick up a video card box. Nvidia and ATI must hire Merriam-Webster just to make sure they have enough made up words in their description. I love technobabble and I don't know why. -- Swi Load Clear

[Thoth]

USAF LM wrote, in part:
Ah, but if it uses the Cell processor then it will be able to morph into a butler, a la the evil cyborg in Terminator two.

I had the beta version . . . but it killed me.

When I got better I swore off using anything with a cell processor that can also
morph into an evil cyborg and stick a pointy sword made from its arm through my
head, and sold all my Playstation gear on ebay.

You'd think that would keep me out of trouble, but no. Apparently, that first
excruciatingly painful exchange of protoplasm with the beta version (the time it
killed me) also left me impregnated (I tried to file charges but the cops just
laughed at me).

My doctors told me that the feti appeared to be approximately 30 tiny PS3s that,
"if allowed to mature almost certainly would be able to morph into evil cyborgs
and stick pointy swords made from their arms through peoples' heads."

Expecting to be one of the first with a pointy sword through my head, I followed
my doctors' advice and aborted the pregnancy. I expected the abortion process to
be much worse, but the doctors just made me eat three servings of prunes at once
and waited for nature take its course.

Now I feel empty. I guess I'm kinda hoping that one of the doctors was corrupt
enough to save a fetus from destruction. Only the next version of the
Playstation will tell. Still, I imagine I'll shed a tear if my new PS3 morphs
into an evil cyborg and stabs me in the head with a pointy sword made from its
arm.

I'll shed a tear, but also think, "that's my boy!"

[Robert Myers]

On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 06:06:48 GMT, Tony Hill <hilla_nospam_20@yahoo.ca>
wrote:

<snip>This "Cell" processor is a real question mark. It's architecture isquite different from previous chips, and the performance numbers I'veheard from it are rather unreal. If the performance were at all likesome people are rumoring it to be, IBM would have long ago dropped allplans for their Power6 processor and be moving headlong towards this"Cell" processor.

That argument doesn't bear scrutiny. A processor for a server, or for
most anything other than a specialized appliance, has to have many
capabilities that Cell won't have. If you just want fast, that's not
all that hard to do, and that's all that's been claimed for Cell.

RM

[Union Kane]

"jesse the troll" <jessethetroll@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:f45rb.12$pE3.7@twister.socal.rr.com... shut up fag "USAF LM" <Mmmmm@spam.yum> wrote in message news:3fac761f@news03.toast.net... Steven C (Doktersteve) wrote: haha. guess it also has gamecube technology too huh? I mean, the cube has a power pc based chip in it lol. Hey, did you hear the xbox2 will be able to run itunes and idvd? and
its also can run OS X... after all, its got that Mac based chip in it. Ah, but if it uses the Cell processor then it will be able to morph into a butler, a la the evil cyborg in Terminator two. Who will then get you a beer and go next door to steal your neighbors extra processor cycles via the revolutionary THUG API. That's where he sticks a pointy sword, made from his own arm, in their face and takes their PS3. He then brings it back and system links your PS3 and your new PS3 together. You and he then spend the rest of the day using your new super computer to control Saddam's arsenal of ICBM missiles. This is, of course, straight from Sony's website. Don't have a link right now. Of course, we're talking about the Xbox. Well, I just happen to have access to a secret leaked memo on the possibility of Xbox2 using the Cell processor. It's entitled, "Clippy makes a comeback." There's a bunch of crap about Clippy being an integral part of Longhorn. Something about Clippy picking up where IE was halted. I don't know. Then there is a post script that addresses Xbox2 and Cell. It said, and I quote, "We cannot use Cell technology in Xbox2. If we did, Xbox2 would be so powerful that it would be a blackhole of processing power. Bloated code, and small children, would be crushed by its awesome awesomness. However, we feel this may be necessary as Xbox2 will run on a stripped down version of BloatCode 2000 XP Home Networking Wireless Barely 18 Securitron Media edition now with Windows. Whatever, you know, tech companies use so much techno babble anymore. Just pick up a video card box. Nvidia and ATI must hire Merriam-Webster just to make sure they have enough made up words in their description. I love technobabble and I don't know why. -- Swi Load Clear

Take your own advice.

[Tony Hill]

On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 10:03:40 -0500, Robert Myers <rmyers@rustuck.com>
wrote:On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 06:06:48 GMT, Tony Hill <hilla_nospam_20@yahoo.ca>wrote:This "Cell" processor is a real question mark. It's architecture isquite different from previous chips, and the performance numbers I'veheard from it are rather unreal. If the performance were at all likesome people are rumoring it to be, IBM would have long ago dropped allplans for their Power6 processor and be moving headlong towards this"Cell" processor.That argument doesn't bear scrutiny. A processor for a server, or formost anything other than a specialized appliance, has to have manycapabilities that Cell won't have. If you just want fast, that's notall that hard to do, and that's all that's been claimed for Cell.

Err, yeah, that was kind of my point, that there are definitely going
to be some drawbacks to Cell that people seem to be ignoring. I don't
know enough about the technical details of the chip to figure out just
what they are, but it might not be this super-wonder chip that
everyone says it's going to be.

-------------
Tony Hill
hilla <underscore> 20 <at> yahoo <dot> ca

[Steven C \(Doktersteve\)]

That was hilarious. Thanks :D


"USAF LM" <Mmmmm@spam.yum> wrote in message
news:3fac761f@news03.toast.net... Steven C (Doktersteve) wrote: haha. guess it also has gamecube technology too huh? I mean, the cube has a
power pc based chip in it lol. Hey, did you hear the xbox2 will be able to run itunes and idvd? and its also can run OS X... after all, its got that Mac based chip in it. Ah, but if it uses the Cell processor then it will be able to morph into a butler, a la the evil cyborg in Terminator two. Who will then get you a beer and go next door to steal your neighbors extra processor cycles via the revolutionary THUG API. That's where he sticks a pointy sword, made from his own arm, in their face and takes their PS3. He then brings it back and system links your PS3 and your new PS3 together. You and he then spend the rest of the day using your new super computer to control Saddam's arsenal of ICBM missiles. This is, of course, straight from Sony's website. Don't have a link right now. Of course, we're talking about the Xbox. Well, I just happen to have access to a secret leaked memo on the possibility of Xbox2 using the Cell processor. It's entitled, "Clippy makes a comeback." There's a bunch of crap about Clippy being an integral part of Longhorn. Something about Clippy picking up where IE was halted. I don't know. Then there is a post script that addresses Xbox2 and Cell. It said, and I quote, "We cannot use Cell technology in Xbox2. If we did, Xbox2 would be so powerful that it would be a blackhole of processing power. Bloated code, and small children, would be crushed by its awesome awesomness. However, we feel this may be necessary as Xbox2 will run on a stripped down version of BloatCode 2000 XP Home Networking Wireless Barely 18 Securitron Media edition now with Windows. Whatever, you know, tech companies use so much techno babble anymore. Just pick up a video card box. Nvidia and ATI must hire Merriam-Webster just to make sure they have enough made up words in their description. I love technobabble and I don't know why. -- Swi Load Clear

[james the troll]

On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 12:11:55 GMT, "jesse the troll"
<jessethetroll@hotmail.com> wrote:
shut up fag

no u shut up fag

"USAF LM" <Mmmmm@spam.yum> wrote in messagenews:3fac761f@news03.toast.net... Steven C (Doktersteve) wrote: haha. guess it also has gamecube technology too huh? I mean, the cube has apower pc based chip in it lol. Hey, did you hear the xbox2 will be able to run itunes and idvd? and its also can run OS X... after all, its got that Mac based chip in it. Ah, but if it uses the Cell processor then it will be able to morph into a butler, a la the evil cyborg in Terminator two. Who will then get you a beer and go next door to steal your neighbors extra processor cycles via the revolutionary THUG API. That's where he sticks a pointy sword, made from his own arm, in their face and takes their PS3. He then brings it back and system links your PS3 and your new PS3 together. You and he then spend the rest of the day using your new super computer to control Saddam's arsenal of ICBM missiles. This is, of course, straight from Sony's website. Don't have a link right now. Of course, we're talking about the Xbox. Well, I just happen to have access to a secret leaked memo on the possibility of Xbox2 using the Cell processor. It's entitled, "Clippy makes a comeback." There's a bunch of crap about Clippy being an integral part of Longhorn. Something about Clippy picking up where IE was halted. I don't know. Then there is a post script that addresses Xbox2 and Cell. It said, and I quote, "We cannot use Cell technology in Xbox2. If we did, Xbox2 would be so powerful that it would be a blackhole of processing power. Bloated code, and small children, would be crushed by its awesome awesomness. However, we feel this may be necessary as Xbox2 will run on a stripped down version of BloatCode 2000 XP Home Networking Wireless Barely 18 Securitron Media edition now with Windows. Whatever, you know, tech companies use so much techno babble anymore. Just pick up a video card box. Nvidia and ATI must hire Merriam-Webster just to make sure they have enough made up words in their description. I love technobabble and I don't know why. -- Swi Load Clear