USB 2.0 on Intel 865PERL mobo

[chrisv]

Trying to install the USB 2.0 drivers (from the motherboard's CD)
results in failure. Experiments using a USB 2.0 flash-drive prove I'm
not getting 2.0 speeds. BIOS settings to enable high-speed USB look
to be correct.

Any ideas?

[Adam Steiner]

What OS? If you're running XP SP1 I don't believe you need to install the
drivers.
"chrisv" <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:g61b809r8f32toodu10bbkv1kgqlm81t2h@4ax.com... Trying to install the USB 2.0 drivers (from the motherboard's CD) results in failure. Experiments using a USB 2.0 flash-drive prove I'm not getting 2.0 speeds. BIOS settings to enable high-speed USB look to be correct. Any ideas?

[chrisv]

"Adam Steiner" <adam@NOstudent-SPAMcomputers.THANKScom> wrote:
What OS? If you're running XP SP1 I don't believe you need to install thedrivers.

Win2k.

[lyon_wonder]

>Trying to install the USB 2.0 drivers (from the motherboard's CD)results in failure. Experiments using a USB 2.0 flash-drive prove I'mnot getting 2.0 speeds. BIOS settings to enable high-speed USB lookto be correct.Any ideas?

Win2k didn't have built-in support for USB 2.0 until SP4. Either
obtain SP4 or download Intel's motherboard drivers.

[The little lost angel]

On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 15:19:36 -0500, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
wrote:
Trying to install the USB 2.0 drivers (from the motherboard's CD)results in failure. Experiments using a USB 2.0 flash-drive prove I'mnot getting 2.0 speeds. BIOS settings to enable high-speed USB lookto be correct.

What kind of speeds are you getting? Maybe you can test on somebody
else's USB 2.0 system to confirm it? Some sneaky manufacturers claim
their devices are USB 2.0 simply by virtue of having an interface
that's capable of it... but the medium itself isn't fast enough to
give you anything like USB 2.0 speeds.

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[Alexander Grigoriev]

To check that, one has to set the device manager to "Show devices by
connection" mode.

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message news:4085fde6.126087828@news.pacific.net.sg... On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 15:19:36 -0500, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:Trying to install the USB 2.0 drivers (from the motherboard's CD)results in failure. Experiments using a USB 2.0 flash-drive prove I'mnot getting 2.0 speeds. BIOS settings to enable high-speed USB lookto be correct. What kind of speeds are you getting? Maybe you can test on somebody else's USB 2.0 system to confirm it? Some sneaky manufacturers claim their devices are USB 2.0 simply by virtue of having an interface that's capable of it... but the medium itself isn't fast enough to give you anything like USB 2.0 speeds. -- L.Angel: I'm looking for web design work. If you need basic to med complexity webpages at affordable rates, email me
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[The little lost angel]

On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 14:10:23 GMT, "Alexander Grigoriev"
<alegr@earthlink.net> wrote:
To check that, one has to set the device manager to "Show devices byconnection" mode.

Oh... actually I was thinking more of putting a 100MB file on the
flash drive and see how long it takes for the transfer to go through.
If the throughput is only 1Mbps, then it doesn't really matter what
the software or labels say. :PPpP


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[chrisv]

a?n?g?e?l@lovergirl.lrigrevol.moc.com (The little lost angel) wrote:
On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 14:10:23 GMT, "Alexander Grigoriev"<alegr@earthlink.net> wrote:To check that, one has to set the device manager to "Show devices byconnection" mode.Oh... actually I was thinking more of putting a 100MB file on theflash drive and see how long it takes for the transfer to go through.If the throughput is only 1Mbps, then it doesn't really matter whatthe software or labels say. :PPpP

Yeah, that's what I did to test my data transfer speed. Way too slow
for USB 2.0 (a couple minutes to transfer 100MB).

[chrisv]

lyon_wonder <lyon_wonder@yahoo.com> wrote:
Trying to install the USB 2.0 drivers (from the motherboard's CD)results in failure. Experiments using a USB 2.0 flash-drive prove I'mnot getting 2.0 speeds. BIOS settings to enable high-speed USB lookto be correct.Any ideas?Win2k didn't have built-in support for USB 2.0 until SP4. Eitherobtain SP4 or download Intel's motherboard drivers.

Intel's driver is on the mobo's CD. They fail install.

[George Macdonald]

On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 17:51:42 GMT, a?n?g?e?l@lovergirl.lrigrevol.moc.com
(The little lost angel) wrote:
On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 14:10:23 GMT, "Alexander Grigoriev"<alegr@earthlink.net> wrote:To check that, one has to set the device manager to "Show devices byconnection" mode.Oh... actually I was thinking more of putting a 100MB file on theflash drive and see how long it takes for the transfer to go through.If the throughput is only 1Mbps, then it doesn't really matter whatthe software or labels say. :PPpP

It varies a lot by the flash USB drive mfr. On a Sandisk Cruzer Mini (USB
2.0) I've seen write speeds which are not that much faster than USB 1.1:
~1.1MB/s; the read speed is much faster: 11MB/s. Sandisk now has their
Titanium USB flash drives which are said to write as fast as 13MB/s. If
you look at their (and other mfr's) info on the early USB 2.0 flash drives,
the specs kinda mumble about actual speeds, especially write speeds.

Rgds, George Macdonald

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[Baad Boy]

I have a D865PERL running Win2K Pro and the CD wouldn't load the software or
drivers from the CD autorun. What I did was close the autorun window that
starts after CD insertion and brought up device manger, selected USB and
added drivers using "Update Driver". Click the "Specify a location" dialog
and browse the CD to the USB drivers. Intel Express Installer doesn't work,
so you can also load the additional sofware by browsing the disk with
Windows Explorer.

Baad Boy


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[The little lost angel]

On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 07:40:57 -0500, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
wrote:
Yeah, that's what I did to test my data transfer speed. Way too slowfor USB 2.0 (a couple minutes to transfer 100MB).

Have you tried the same on a system known to have a working full speed
USB 2.0 connection? The problem as I mentioned before, some
manufacturers are putting USB 2.0 interfaces on media that won't meet
that kind of speeds. There was some review done some time back by some
photography website and showed significant disparity between what
different brands of cards can achieve.


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[chrisv]

a?n?g?e?l@lovergirl.lrigrevol.moc.com (The little lost angel) wrote:
On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 07:40:57 -0500, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>wrote:Yeah, that's what I did to test my data transfer speed. Way too slowfor USB 2.0 (a couple minutes to transfer 100MB).Have you tried the same on a system known to have a working full speedUSB 2.0 connection? The problem as I mentioned before, somemanufacturers are putting USB 2.0 interfaces on media that won't meetthat kind of speeds. There was some review done some time back by somephotography website and showed significant disparity between whatdifferent brands of cards can achieve.

I don't have any known-good USB 2.0 machines. 8( I am checking on
data read from the flash, which would be faster than writing it...

I tend to think it's "my fault" since the driver install fails. It's
quite odd that the Intel driver won't install on in Intel board. And
the error message ("failed") is worthless.