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Old 09-16-2006, 08:17 AM
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On 9/16/06 11:02 AM, inez commented:
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On 9/15/06 2:08 PM, RC Moonpie commented:
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Hello I'm trying to open an older Illustrator file, into Windows CS2. the old file was built with probably Illustrator 7 or 9. It has a link to a huge TIF file, over 450mb in size. Its a gigantic trade show display. the file would open in Illustrator 9 or 10, but in CS2 I get a "not enough memory to link to file" error message and the file closes before fully opening. Anybody ever seen this? Also, i went to preferences, in Photoshop theres a place to allocate more RAM to the program, but I cannot find it in Illustrator. Does anyone know how to do this? thanks
I haven't read all the replies thoroughly, but my question is: is the original TIF file compressed? I don't know if there are any known issues with importing compressed TIFF files in AI CS2, so in PS do a Save As to make a new file and save it with LZW or ZIP compression (not sure which would be smallest and most compatible) checked ON and make sure Image Pyramid and Transparency (unless you need the transprency) are UNchecked. See if that makes the file size smaller and more manageable. Do you have plenty of scratch disk space? I can't remember a thing about allocating memory in Windows, so I can't help there. inez



Also, make sure the new file you save is flat, no layers. Not sure if it'll
reduce the size much, but you can go in PS preferences and uncheck the
Thumbnails and icon under Saving Files prefs; or, if you have that option
set to Ask..., then uncheck them when you save.

I don't use CS2 or Windows, so I apologize if my advice doesn't apply.

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Old 09-17-2006, 12:26 AM
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In article <t9ulg2p0vm1lv2ga2mbnu44g38qs98robm@4ax.com>,
RC Moonpie <rc_moonpies@hotmail.com> wrote:
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Hello I'm trying to open an older Illustrator file, into Windows CS2. the old file was built with probably Illustrator 7 or 9. It has a link to a huge TIF file, over 450mb in size. Its a gigantic trade show display. the file would open in Illustrator 9 or 10, but in CS2 I get a "not enough memory to link to file" error message and the file closes before fully opening. Anybody ever seen this? Also, i went to preferences, in Photoshop theres a place to allocate more RAM to the program, but I cannot find it in Illustrator. Does anyone know how to do this? thanks


I have pictures now and then that will not open at all in PS CS
but will happily in PS 5. And never know why?

And I sometimes have to go out while Illustrator reads or exports
stuff, so slow is the process. But it does it eventually to my
surprise!

Perhaps what is happening in your case is that when the greater
RAM consuming Illustrator CS is up and running, there is not
enough spare capacity to do the needed work. On a Mac at least,
HD space is used extensively to back up real RAM and best to have
plenty of it in a contiguous block. There is surely a Windows
setting to assign particular volumes for this as in Mac. Have you
got a lot of spare space? What is the RAM situation?

And do you need to actually work on the picture itself? If not,
obviously, you prepare a TIFF with the same size and name but
tiny in file size and yank the monster out for a while while you
do the work around it.

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dorayme wrote:
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In article <t9ulg2p0vm1lv2ga2mbnu44g38qs98robm@4ax.com>, RC Moonpie <rc_moonpies@hotmail.com> wrote:
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HelloI'm trying to open an older Illustrator file, into Windows CS2. theold file was built with probably Illustrator 7 or 9. It has a link toa huge TIF file, over 450mb in size. Its a gigantic trade showdisplay.the file would open in Illustrator 9 or 10, but in CS2 I get a "notenough memory to link to file" error message and the file closesbefore fully opening.Anybody ever seen this? Also, i went to preferences, in Photoshoptheres a place to allocate more RAM to the program, but I cannot findit in Illustrator. Does anyone know how to do this?thanks
I have pictures now and then that will not open at all in PS CS but will happily in PS 5. And never know why? And I sometimes have to go out while Illustrator reads or exports stuff, so slow is the process. But it does it eventually to my surprise! Perhaps what is happening in your case is that when the greater RAM consuming Illustrator CS is up and running, there is not enough spare capacity to do the needed work. On a Mac at least, HD space is used extensively to back up real RAM and best to have plenty of it in a contiguous block. There is surely a Windows setting to assign particular volumes for this as in Mac. Have you got a lot of spare space? What is the RAM situation? And do you need to actually work on the picture itself? If not, obviously, you prepare a TIFF with the same size and name but tiny in file size and yank the monster out for a while while you do the work around it.


For Mac: download CPU Speed Accelerator. Other than the Mac system
itself it assigns all the available RAM to the top app on screen, so the
application you are working with at that moment. I can notice the
difference.
Here it is:

http://www.apple.com/downloads/maco...ccelerator.html
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Old 09-17-2006, 05:15 AM
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There are a few posts over int eh Adobe Forums that will help you out on
this. bAsically, ...
1. Close down any other programs, while you're running Illustrator.
2. If you don't have 2 GB RAm, .. add it!!!!
3. If you're already at 2GB,. .. go up to 4gb , then you'll have to add a
line of text into the boot.ini file ..
/3GB

Again, search and you should be able to find more info about the 3 Gig
Switch.

Once you have enough RAM, .. "then" if the psd file is too big, you'll get
an error message ...
"Photoshop file not readable".

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Hello I'm trying to open an older Illustrator file, into Windows CS2. the old file was built with probably Illustrator 7 or 9. It has a link to a huge TIF file, over 450mb in size. Its a gigantic trade show display. the file would open in Illustrator 9 or 10, but in CS2 I get a "not enough memory to link to file" error message and the file closes before fully opening. Anybody ever seen this? Also, i went to preferences, in Photoshop theres a place to allocate more RAM to the program, but I cannot find it in Illustrator. Does anyone know how to do this? thanks



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In article <4n4upeF8prbdU1@individual.net>,
steggy <steggy@me.privacy.net> wrote:
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For Mac: download CPU Speed Accelerator. Other than the Mac system itself it assigns all the available RAM to the top app on screen, so the application you are working with at that moment. I can notice the difference. Here it is: http://www.apple.com/downloads/maco...speedaccelerato r.html


hmmm... I have downloaded it, must give it a go!

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Old 09-18-2006, 05:50 AM
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Thanks to all for all your ideas. I solved the problem by opening the
Tiff in photoshop and saving as a PDF, using X1a2005. Illustrator
placed the file immediately.

Saving the file as a PSD got me the error message predicted below,
"Photoshop file not readable".

This ocurred on two different PC Windows machines, both with 64 bit
processors (very fast) and 2 gigs of RAM each and at least 40 gigs
free space on hard drive. One of the machines had 250 gigs free space.
So its not the machines. Its an Illustrator CS2 issue. It could be my
settings inside Illustrator.

I'll try the forums. Weirder still, InDesign and Photoshop had no
problems at all placing or opening the TIF. I never did find a way to
allocate more RAM to Illustrator in Windows.

Thanks for all your help.

RC


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There are a few posts over int eh Adobe Forums that will help you out onthis. bAsically, ...1. Close down any other programs, while you're running Illustrator.2. If you don't have 2 GB RAm, .. add it!!!!3. If you're already at 2GB,. .. go up to 4gb , then you'll have to add aline of text into the boot.ini file .. /3GBAgain, search and you should be able to find more info about the 3 GigSwitch.Once you have enough RAM, .. "then" if the psd file is too big, you'll getan error message ..."Photoshop file not readable".Allen"RC Moonpie" <rc_moonpies@hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:t9ulg2p0vm1lv2ga2mbnu44g38qs98robm@4ax .com...
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Hello I'm trying to open an older Illustrator file, into Windows CS2. the old file was built with probably Illustrator 7 or 9. It has a link to a huge TIF file, over 450mb in size. Its a gigantic trade show display. the file would open in Illustrator 9 or 10, but in CS2 I get a "not enough memory to link to file" error message and the file closes before fully opening. Anybody ever seen this? Also, i went to preferences, in Photoshop theres a place to allocate more RAM to the program, but I cannot find it in Illustrator. Does anyone know how to do this? thanks


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On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 17:08:37 -0400, RC Moonpie in alt.graphics.illustrator wrote:

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It isnt. The print vendor told me the tif had to be 100dpi at fullsize. and he knew it would be gigantic. I suppose I could try to buildan Illustraotr file at 50% and then change the TIF to 200dpi but cutthe dimensions in half. I'll try that and see if it works.


Just following the thread now, so forgive me if I don't know the whole
story.

I would do this, it's nothing for Prepress to enlarge a Illustrator
vector file on output. In fact I'd go even smaller. In my years in
prepress we did this often with large signage all the time -- Of course
it doesn't work too well if you're using bitmaps.




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On 20 Sep 2006 07:08:10 +0200, Stephen <Stephen.D.Allen@gmail.com>
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On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 17:08:37 -0400, RC Moonpie in alt.graphics.illustrator wrote:
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It isnt. The print vendor told me the tif had to be 100dpi at fullsize. and he knew it would be gigantic. I suppose I could try to buildan Illustraotr file at 50% and then change the TIF to 200dpi but cutthe dimensions in half. I'll try that and see if it works.
Just following the thread now, so forgive me if I don't know the wholestory.I would do this, it's nothing for Prepress to enlarge a Illustratorvector file on output. In fact I'd go even smaller. In my years inprepress we did this often with large signage all the time -- Of courseit doesn't work too well if you're using bitmaps.


That isnt going to help because the problem is a linked file, a
photoshop-generated background, that ends up being 128x90 at 100dpi,
at full size.

I experimented further and found Ilustrator CS2 would also accept a
flattened Photoshop file, background layer only. But a Tiff with only
a background layer? Nope. Just weird.






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In article <5ij2h2d5mqvlu957pn380c368hv98bpgac@4ax.com>,
RC Moonpie <rc_moonpies@hotmail.com> wrote:
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On 20 Sep 2006 07:08:10 +0200, Stephen <Stephen.D.Allen@gmail.com> wrote:
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On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 17:08:37 -0400, RC Moonpie in alt.graphics.illustratorwrote:
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It isnt. The print vendor told me the tif had to be 100dpi at fullsize. and he knew it would be gigantic. I suppose I could try to buildan Illustraotr file at 50% and then change the TIF to 200dpi but cutthe dimensions in half. I'll try that and see if it works.
Just following the thread now, so forgive me if I don't know the wholestory.I would do this, it's nothing for Prepress to enlarge a Illustratorvector file on output. In fact I'd go even smaller. In my years inprepress we did this often with large signage all the time -- Of courseit doesn't work too well if you're using bitmaps.
That isnt going to help because the problem is a linked file, a photoshop-generated background, that ends up being 128x90 at 100dpi, at full size. I experimented further and found Ilustrator CS2 would also accept a flattened Photoshop file, background layer only. But a Tiff with only a background layer? Nope. Just weird.


There are weird things in this area. It takes ages for a placed
jpg to load in an Illustrator 8 program (Mac), the even bigger
TIFF loads quickly. I just avoided JPGs as a result for
Illustrator work or only where it was needed to email it to
someone.

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