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Old 09-30-2006, 10:34 AM
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nice little machine: ross hypersparc 150mhz, 512mb ram, 4gig good fast
drive; does not overheat. but it fails 'test net' on booting. no problem
with the ethernet switch or cable.

i have a couple of spare bases but i suspect problems with other things on
them. however, their ethernet controllers were fine when i stored them.

is the ethernet conroller a single chip which is easily transferable
drom one motherboard to another? any place with instructions?
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Old 09-30-2006, 02:07 PM
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arthur wouk wrote:
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nice little machine: ross hypersparc 150mhz, 512mb ram, 4gig good fast drive; does not overheat. but it fails 'test net' on booting.


Fails how exactly?
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no problem with the ethernet switch or cable.


Try using a hub instead. The dumber and older the better. i.e.:
something from around the same era as an SS10

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Old 09-30-2006, 08:11 PM
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In article <1159654067.732427.110290@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups. com>,
gerryt <lepsysinc@gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
arthur wouk wrote:
Quote:
nice little machine: ross hypersparc 150mhz, 512mb ram, 4gig good fast drive; does not overheat. but it fails 'test net' on booting.
Fails how exactly?


simple error message, cannot find network, code -1. the usual tricks
for getting ethernet going fail (ifconig, setting up
/etc/hostname.le0, etc.)

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no problem with the ethernet switch or cable.
Try using a hub instead. The dumber and older the better. i.e.:something from around the same era as an SS10


two other ss10s running the same os (solaris 9) have no problem
with the switch. in fact, i test the cable and switch combination
by moving the cable betweenm the ss10 and another fucntioning sun
machine.
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Old 09-30-2006, 08:16 PM
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On Sun, 1 Oct 2006, Arthur Wouk wrote:
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two other ss10s running the same os (solaris 9) have no problem with the switch. in fact, i test the cable and switch combination by moving the cable betweenm the ss10 and another fucntioning sun machine.


ISTR those older machines having a fuse for the onboard Ethernet.
It's possible that that fuse might have blown. Assuming you want
to continue using this SS10, I think your best option would be
to get an old Ethernet SBUS card from Ebay. I imagine they're
peanuts these days.

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Old 09-30-2006, 08:21 PM
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According to arthur wouk <awouk@blackhole.nyx.net>:
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nice little machine: ross hypersparc 150mhz, 512mb ram, 4gig good fast drive; does not overheat. but it fails 'test net' on booting. no problem with the ethernet switch or cable.


Hmm ... you know that the SS10 has two ethernet connections (to
a single chip)? One is the twisted pair, and the other is accessed
through one of the connectors like tiny parallel printer ports (and one
of the two actually *is* used for the parallel printer connection). The
other, marked "<...>" requires an adaptor to plug in, which allows you
to connect it to an AUI interfaced transceiver.

I forget which order they are tested in, but if the first one
tested is not there, it will report a failure on that, and then
automatically switch over to the other connector.
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i have a couple of spare bases but i suspect problems with other things on them. however, their ethernet controllers were fine when i stored them. is the ethernet conroller a single chip which is easily transferable drom one motherboard to another? any place with instructions?


Whatever chip it is is surface-mount soldered to the
motherboard, along with possible driver chips to actually connect to the
outside world. I don't know which chip does the task, but unless you
are set up to remove and replace surface-mount chips (it requires fairly
expensive soldering/desoldering equipment), you might as well accept
that you can't replace it.

And -- there is a fuse in the board, which provides power to the
interface and the AUI connector. If that fuse is blown, it will fail
both interfaces, I believe.

And while the older machines, like the SS-2, had bi-pin fuses
plugged into the board, the later ones (including the SS-10, I think)
had switched to fuses which look like tiny resistors, and which were
marked for factory service only. The (easy) way to check that fuse is
if you have the adaptor from the special connector to the AUI connector,
and a transceiver -- you can see whether the LEDs on the transceiver
light up.

But even if it is not *fixable* -- you can pick up a sBus card
with an ethernet interface on it, and use that instead. Often, the
cards are paired with a 50-pin SCSI interface.

An example would be the 501-1869 card, which is listed as being
good for the SS-10.

Others include the 501-2015, 501-2981, 501-1902 (50-pin
differential), and 501-2739 (10BaseT/100BaseT + 68-pin wide SCSI)

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DoN.

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Old 10-01-2006, 01:36 PM
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Hi,

arthur wouk wrote:
Quote:
nice little machine: ross hypersparc 150mhz, 512mb ram, 4gig good fast drive; does not overheat. but it fails 'test net' on booting. no problem with the ethernet switch or cable. i have a couple of spare bases but i suspect problems with other things on them. however, their ethernet controllers were fine when i stored them. is the ethernet conroller a single chip which is easily transferable drom one motherboard to another? any place with instructions?


In a workshop and a skilled solderer it is piece of a cake, 10 minutes
work, but easier is to get a Swift board from EBAY and you will have
100Mb/s aswell and a faster SCSI interface which you can use for
connecting internal discs to.


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Old 10-01-2006, 10:54 PM
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In article <4oaqmuFdmggoU1@individual.net>,
Michael Laajanen <michael_laajanen@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Hi, arthur wouk wrote:
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nice little machine: ross hypersparc 150mhz, 512mb ram, 4gig good fast drive; does not overheat. but it fails 'test net' on booting. no problem with the ethernet switch or cable. i have a couple of spare bases but i suspect problems with other things on them. however, their ethernet controllers were fine when i stored them. is the ethernet conroller a single chip which is easily transferable drom one motherboard to another? any place with instructions?
In a workshop and a skilled solderer it is piece of a cake, 10 minutes work, but easier is to get a Swift board from EBAY and you will have 100Mb/s aswell and a faster SCSI interface which you can use for connecting internal discs to. Michael


And it'll cost $15, nowadays.
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Old 10-02-2006, 04:44 AM
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What is 'tpe-link-test?' set to in the OBP?

It looks like the SPARCstation 10 has more network interfaces than just
RJ45.
On other older systems you needed this variable set to true to activate the
RJ45 port.

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