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Larry B wrote: My personal use, is to, delete only the Green entries. Click on Select All and choose > Select all Green items. Right click on a Green item to delete all Green files. RegSeeker is also very good for registry searching, click on > Find in registry, tick all the boxes in > Keys, put a word ( example AOL ) in > Search for: & click > Search. Now you have a list on one page, of all the registry entries for AOL.
Good advice, John. I use it like you do. I only use RegSeeker for finding specific keys to clean out one program. I've never heard that general cleaning of the registry is a good idea. Mike Sa
This computer is one at work in which an employee was recently fired. He had tons of personal programs on there and compared to other employee's computers, this one is dog slow. The unnecessary programs have been removed properly, spyware and adware removed, but it is still slow. I was hoping to do the registry cleaning before I defraged. Any other advise?? I am no IT person, just like to help out in a small office. Once the above actions are taken, in my experience it is likely that it will still be slow. What causes Windows to bog down like this? If not the registry, then what, unnecessary remnant dll's? I have heard that that can be quite the slippery slope.
Larry, I regularly use Sysinternals PageDefrag (AKA "System File
Defragmenter v2.32"):
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Regards from John Corliss. I don't reply to trolls like Andy Mabbett.
No ad, cd, commercial, cripple, demo, nag, share, spy, time-limited or
trial wares or warez for me, please.
My personal use, is to, delete only the Green entries. Click on Select All and choose > Select all Green items. Right click on a Green item to delete all Green files.
For years I've been selecting them manually as I thought Select All meant just that! I never thought of clicking it and getting options to select either all green or all red!
This computer is one at work in which an employee was recently fired. He had tons of...
Larry;
I'm not sure if this has already been discussed but, by far the best
solution for a production machine is to wipe out the current instance
and do a complete re-install.
"Fixing" a machine riddled w/junk may make it run faster but it won't
make it anymore reliable or secure, irrespective of Windows flavor.
This is especially true for a production box.
On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 17:34:30 GMT, "Larry B" <hatespam@hatespam.gov>
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Once the aboveactions are taken, in my experience it is likely that it will still be slow.What causes Windows to bog down like this?
Sounds like that, having checked for infections, you are now trying to
remove unnecessary running processes from memory and free up as much
hard drive space as possible.
Since lack of memory and lack of free disk space are major common
causes of slowdown, in my opinion you are headed in the right
direction.
If the computer still stays slow after you've ruled out everything
else, you may simply need more memory (or, secondly, a larger HD) to
speed it up.
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On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 17:34:30 GMT, "Larry B" <hatespam@hatespam.gov> wrote:
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Once the aboveactions are taken, in my experience it is likely that it will still beslow.What causes Windows to bog down like this?
Sounds like that, having checked for infections, you are now trying to remove unnecessary running processes from memory and free up as much hard drive space as possible. Since lack of memory and lack of free disk space are major common causes of slowdown, in my opinion you are headed in the right direction. If the computer still stays slow after you've ruled out everything else, you may simply need more memory (or, secondly, a larger HD) to speed it up. Post back a followup with your final results. -- Regards, Dan
Dan, thanks for touching base. Not looking good. All that I have left to do
is to run HijackThis (anything is possible, though). The HDD is 72% free and
the RAM is the same as the other desktops in my office. So, with all other
things being equal as they are, the memory should be fine for the apps
involved.
It just may be a case of too many apps installed/uninstalled. Windows just
seems to suffer from this kind of behavior. The last user had Poker, 3 AV's,
3 spywares, 4 IM's and Yahoo everything on it. It is slow in the way that
even opening up a simple Word file can take 30-40 seconds.
So far I have used RegSeeker (removed green items only), CCleaner, Spybot,
Adaware and manually removed uninstalled folders from Program Files and
related references from the registry. StartUp instructions have been cleaned
up to an austere level (Norton is being used but that is true on all of the
other desktops, too). Lastly, I defraged last night.
Little improvement after all of that. Hard to believe.
On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 14:38:08 GMT, "Larry B" <hatespam@hatespam.gov>
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"Dan" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in messagenews:f0tki2deuo1v195h93bism0qj0hmqeo8ko@4ax .com...
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On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 17:34:30 GMT, "Larry B" <hatespam@hatespam.gov> wrote:
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Once the aboveactions are taken, in my experience it is likely that it will still beslow.What causes Windows to bog down like this?
Sounds like that, having checked for infections, you are now trying to remove unnecessary running processes from memory and free up as much hard drive space as possible. Since lack of memory and lack of free disk space are major common causes of slowdown, in my opinion you are headed in the right direction. If the computer still stays slow after you've ruled out everything else, you may simply need more memory (or, secondly, a larger HD) to speed it up. Post back a followup with your final results. -- Regards, Dan
Dan, thanks for touching base. Not looking good. All that I have left to dois to run HijackThis (anything is possible, though). The HDD is 72% free andthe RAM is the same as the other desktops in my office. So, with all otherthings being equal as they are, the memory should be fine for the appsinvolved.It just may be a case of too many apps installed/uninstalled. Windows justseems to suffer from this kind of behavior. The last user had Poker, 3 AV's,3 spywares, 4 IM's and Yahoo everything on it. It is slow in the way thateven opening up a simple Word file can take 30-40 seconds.So far I have used RegSeeker (removed green items only), CCleaner, Spybot,Adaware and manually removed uninstalled folders from Program Files andrelated references from the registry. StartUp instructions have been cleanedup to an austere level (Norton is being used but that is true on all of theother desktops, too). Lastly, I defraged last night.Little improvement after all of that. Hard to believe.
In my way of thinking, the problem is either HD space or memory. Since
it's clearly not the HD, I would be curious about what's going on in
memory.
Your post indicates you've taken all the recommended steps to speed
things up, and it's added up to... nada!
1. I wonder if it would help to use a utility to compare the memory
usage of your problem machine to the good ones. If you want to pursue
it further, why not run FreeMeter on a couple of machines? Windows
does have its own built-in memory monitor, but I just prefer
FreeMeter. (And your machines all have the same CPU speed, right?)
2, Have you tried a process viewer to see what's going on inside
memory? There may be some rogue processes still running that a normal
cleanup could have missed. I'm not thinking of any process viewer in
particular. I've looked at several promising ones on freeware sites.
(The Windows process viewer offers less than independent utilities.)
3. I don't know enough about rootkits to say if they clog up memory,
but you might investigate some (freeware) anti-rootkit utilities.
They're a good idea in any case and several of them run simply at the
click of a button.
4. (Grasping at straws), did you look into all Startup folders -
Administrator, All Users, Owner, Default User (hidden)?
5. (Oops, another straw). I don't know if damaged memory chips would
affect speed, but have you run a chip diagnostic utility?
Good hunting, Larry! If you do more, please follow up again here.
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On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 14:38:08 GMT, "Larry B" <hatespam@hatespam.gov> wrote:
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"Dan" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in messagenews:f0tki2deuo1v195h93bism0qj0hmqeo8ko@4ax .com...
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On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 17:34:30 GMT, "Larry B" <hatespam@hatespam.gov> wrote:>Once the above>actions are taken, in my experience it is likely that it will still be>slow.>What causes Windows to bog down like this? Sounds like that, having checked for infections, you are now trying to remove unnecessary running processes from memory and free up as much hard drive space as possible. Since lack of memory and lack of free disk space are major common causes of slowdown, in my opinion you are headed in the right direction. If the computer still stays slow after you've ruled out everything else, you may simply need more memory (or, secondly, a larger HD) to speed it up. Post back a followup with your final results. -- Regards, Dan
Dan, thanks for touching base. Not looking good. All that I have left todois to run HijackThis (anything is possible, though). The HDD is 72% freeandthe RAM is the same as the other desktops in my office. So, with all otherthings being equal as they are, the memory should be fine for the appsinvolved.It just may be a case of too many apps installed/uninstalled. Windows justseems to suffer from this kind of behavior. The last user had Poker, 3AV's,3 spywares, 4 IM's and Yahoo everything on it. It is slow in the way thateven opening up a simple Word file can take 30-40 seconds.So far I have used RegSeeker (removed green items only), CCleaner, Spybot,Adaware and manually removed uninstalled folders from Program Files andrelated references from the registry. StartUp instructions have beencleanedup to an austere level (Norton is being used but that is true on all oftheother desktops, too). Lastly, I defraged last night.Little improvement after all of that. Hard to believe.
In my way of thinking, the problem is either HD space or memory. Since it's clearly not the HD, I would be curious about what's going on in memory. Your post indicates you've taken all the recommended steps to speed things up, and it's added up to... nada! 1. I wonder if it would help to use a utility to compare the memory usage of your problem machine to the good ones. If you want to pursue it further, why not run FreeMeter on a couple of machines? Windows does have its own built-in memory monitor, but I just prefer FreeMeter. (And your machines all have the same CPU speed, right?) 2, Have you tried a process viewer to see what's going on inside memory? There may be some rogue processes still running that a normal cleanup could have missed. I'm not thinking of any process viewer in particular. I've looked at several promising ones on freeware sites. (The Windows process viewer offers less than independent utilities.) 3. I don't know enough about rootkits to say if they clog up memory, but you might investigate some (freeware) anti-rootkit utilities. They're a good idea in any case and several of them run simply at the click of a button. 4. (Grasping at straws), did you look into all Startup folders - Administrator, All Users, Owner, Default User (hidden)? 5. (Oops, another straw). I don't know if damaged memory chips would affect speed, but have you run a chip diagnostic utility? Good hunting, Larry! If you do more, please follow up again here. -- Regards, Dan
Now I really do have "nada".
1. I ran FreeMeter. Both my and the subject computers look identical (and
they are physically).
2. Ran Sophos AntiRoot and it came up clean.
3. I swapped the 1 512mb PC2100 memory stick with another computer with no
change in performance.
4. I checked all of the StartUp folders and they are as they should be.
5. Process Viewer looks OK
6. Hijack this seems Ok, too, from what I can tell. Should I post those
results?
On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 00:33:56 GMT, "Larry B." <gitridaspam@aol.com>
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Now I really do have "nada".6. Hijack this seems Ok, too, from what I can tell. Should I post thoseresults?
I'm stumped now, Larry. And those results wouldn't be of help to me.
Of course, you could reformat and reinstall the OS and everything
else, but that's drastic, and to me feels like giving up. I hate to
give up, but sometimes you just have to throw in the towel and get on
with more productive things.
I wish I could come up with something else, but I've run out of ideas.
Except... wait, maybe...
Fred Langa often responds publicly to problems that seem similar to
yours. An email to Fred might be worth a shot in the dark.
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