The reviews I have seen so far of the beta version have been very
superficial. (In my view, professional reviews in their nature tend to
be superficial. They mostly just tot up bells and whistles of limited
interest to most users, and even where there are plenty of user reviews
available they assiduously avoid drawing anything from them.)

But I for one will wait for the user reviews. They are usually well
worth reading - excluding the sycophants and iconoclasts - and tell you
just what you want to know: the program either works well for the user
or it doesn't.

Subject to this caveat, some interesting points have emerged. SBA not
surprisingly integrates well with Word, Excel, Outlook, etc. It also
lends itself particularly well to the development of add-ons by
independents. And the user interface is intuitive like Windows
generally.

It is that last point - the intuitive interface - that appeals to me.
I get particularly frustrated by the inability in QB to even set
default choices from a menu of options, or remember changes to the
default QuickReport, much less having QB do it automatically for me.
("Intuit" was as much a misnomer as quite a bit of QB-speak in the
program itself, such as "Retained Earnings" which are anything but
earnings retained in the business.)

I don't use the payroll module in QB but it has to be the most
criticised part of QB, mostly because of the two year sunset policy and
therefore forced upgrades every two years. It's a pity to read that MS
is making a mess of their one too.

One thing that strikes me about MS is their surprising nimbleness for
such a behemoth. They have got listening to users' criticisms and
wishes down to a tee. This, if nothing else, should give them an edge
on QB who seem near deaf.

Anyway, the competition will bring a breath of fresh air into the
rather stuffy small business accounting package market, which can only
be in users' interests.

Ken

"Golden California Girls" <gldncagrls@aol.com.mil> wrote in message
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Its called capitalism and guess what, it works.

One thing that has apparently been removed in the latest versions is
the ability to go into the emailtemplates file and make quite
wide-ranging changes, eg in the fields. The templates have now been
put with the other templates but afford less scope for making changes
in them.

Few users would have been likely to have known how to make the more
wide-ranging changes that were previously possible so it was right to
put the templates with the other templates, but it is a pity that while
taking one step forward Intuit also took two back.

Ken

"Ken" <kendor121@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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<snipped>
Actually, it is an almost three year period - tho Intuit *WILL* spam email
you early in the last year of the product's shelf-life. An early 'jump' to
the newest version means additional income for them. In general, QB releases
new versions in December, 'free' one-year tax tables expire in February of
the following year, and products 'sunset' in April of the 3rd year of
release.
You get the most 'bang for your buck' if you purchase mid-January in the
year your package sunsets. That gives the folks at Intuit a chance to fix
the MAJOR bugs and programming errors in the new release, AND allows you the
maximum use of the software before being FORCED to upgrade.
Note: if you have a payroll subscription you must CANCEL IT in order to take
advantage of the quote-unquote free included tax table. Otherwise, the
friendly folks at Intuit will charge your CC for the subscription,
regardless of your software upgrade. I lost my fourteen hundred dollar
'freebie' when I purchased my 2003 version because I failed to cancel the
subscription, and there were no options or instructions on how to use the
'included' tax table if your were a current subscriber. I'm thinking next
time I will just change the CC on record to a dummy number. That way, I can
just stop downloading payroll updates after installation in order to
use/keep the included tax table.


Intuit 'owns' the market at the moment. They are not deaf so much as
suffering from selective hearing. Right now their marketing teams and bottom
line speak loudest. That will change only when there are more options for
the consumer.
I agree completely!

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"Ken" <kendor121@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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| The reviews I have seen so far of the beta version have been very
| superficial... abbrev.

| But I for one will wait for the user reviews. They are usually well
| worth reading - excluding the sycophants and iconoclasts - and tell you
| just what you want to know: the program either works well for the user
| or it doesn't.
|
| Subject to this caveat, some interesting points have emerged. SBA not
| surprisingly integrates well with Word, Excel, Outlook, etc. It also
| lends itself particularly well to the development of add-ons by
| independents. And the user interface is intuitive like Windows
| generally.

I agree. Depending on the software, I will research it for weeks/months
before making a decision to purchase. I like to start with the professional
reviews first (PC World magazine is my regular favorite so far), then read
what the users have to say.

In this case, what I have read so far regarding "Office SBA" tells me it is
not quite ready for "prime time". So, I'm a'stayin' with QBP and have
ordered the 2005 upgrade. Hey, the price was right...<smile> I feel Office
SBA needs to "cook" a bit longer before it's ready, but it certainly is a
viable option for consideration in the future for the same reasons you
mentioned: the intuitive interface and how well it integrates with Excel,
Word and Outlook.

|Anyway, the competition will bring a breath of fresh air into the
|rather stuffy small business accounting package market, which can only
|be in users' interests.

I agree!

Thank you, Ken, "none", "L", Laura, and Tara for your informative feedback.
You were all very helpful. Hope I didn't forget anyone...

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