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Old 12-28-2004, 03:35 PM
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The prospectus for your fund says:

"Your Class B shares convert automatically into Class A shares
approximately eight years after purchase. Any Class B shares received
through reinvestment of dividends paid on converting shares will also
convert at that time. Class A shares are subject to lower annual
expenses than Class B shares. The conversion of Class B to Class A
shares is not a taxable event for Federal income tax purposes."

Keep a copy of the prospectus for use if the IRS ever chalenges the
conversion.

John's comment on the split is probably valid, but I didn't like the
other alternatives I tried. I have a Excel file I made through an
export of the old shares if anything ever causes it to go crazy, I have
a second source.

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Old 12-29-2004, 06:36 AM
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Hi, Charlie.
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By the way, I am a CPA, active.


That's good to know. ;<)

Do you have an authoritative cite for the taxability/non-taxability of such
conversions/exchanges of Class B/Class A shares? Or are the "legal
opinions" and bald statements in prospectuses the strongest platforms
available for shareholders to stand on?

I mentioned Sec. 1031 in an earlier post, but I also pointed out that Sec.
1031 specifically excludes exchanges of marketable securities. Perhaps a
Subchapter C (Corporations) section applies to these conversions (like Sec.
355 for spin-offs)? Or something in the Regulated Investment Company
sections? As I said, I spent an hour or two yesterday plowing through
references online, but the Internet resources have sprung up since I retired
and I'm not very good at exploring them. And my subscriptions to Kleinrock
and Matthew Bender CD-ROM services expired over 10 years ago; I don't even
know what they have available these days.

It would be good if we could find an authoritative pronouncement on which
readers here could rely.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
(Retired - no longer licensed to practice)
San Marcos, TX
rc@corridor.net

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Vanguard allows the exchange of their Investor shares to Admiral Shares in a tax free exchange provided your balance meets certain requirements. See their prospectus. It has to be a split because in my case it was not one to one. The split worked better than anything else I tried. Quote from a Vanguard Prospectus (500 Index Fund) "Converting Shares A conversion between share classes of the same fund is a nontaxable event. Pricing of Share Class If you convert from one class of shares to another, the transaction will be based on the respective share prices of the separate classes on the trade date for the conversion. Consequently, a conversion may provide you with fewer shares or more shares than you originally owned, depending on that day's share prices. At the time of conversion, the total value of your "old" shares will equal the total value of your "new" shares. However, subsequent share price fluctuations may decrease or increase the total value of your "new" shares as compared to that of your "old" shares." B shares I have owned in the past have had an automatic conversion to A shares after a certain period of time. Again, the prospectus has indicated that it was tax free. By the way, I am a CPA, active.


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Old 12-30-2004, 04:11 PM
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Thanks to all who responded to my posts. I am going to process the
conversion in Q2004 as a security name change to class A and remove 36.764
shares from the class A using the conversion price to value the Class A
fund.

Again, thanks to all.

Phil


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Hi, Charlie.
Quote:
By the way, I am a CPA, active.
That's good to know. ;<) Do you have an authoritative cite for the taxability/non-taxability of such conversions/exchanges of Class B/Class A shares? Or are the "legal opinions" and bald statements in prospectuses the strongest platforms available for shareholders to stand on? I mentioned Sec. 1031 in an earlier post, but I also pointed out that Sec. 1031 specifically excludes exchanges of marketable securities. Perhaps a Subchapter C (Corporations) section applies to these conversions (like Sec. 355 for spin-offs)? Or something in the Regulated Investment Company sections? As I said, I spent an hour or two yesterday plowing through references online, but the Internet resources have sprung up since I retired and I'm not very good at exploring them. And my subscriptions to Kleinrock and Matthew Bender CD-ROM services expired over 10 years ago; I don't even know what they have available these days. It would be good if we could find an authoritative pronouncement on which readers here could rely. RC -- R. C. White, CPA (Retired - no longer licensed to practice) San Marcos, TX rc@corridor.net "Charlie K" <Chas_K@excite.com> wrote in message news:1104267936.240838.144360@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
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Vanguard allows the exchange of their Investor shares to Admiral Shares in a tax free exchange provided your balance meets certain requirements. See their prospectus. It has to be a split because in my case it was not one to one. The split worked better than anything else I tried. Quote from a Vanguard Prospectus (500 Index Fund) "Converting Shares A conversion between share classes of the same fund is a nontaxable event. Pricing of Share Class If you convert from one class of shares to another, the transaction will be based on the respective share prices of the separate classes on the trade date for the conversion. Consequently, a conversion may provide you with fewer shares or more shares than you originally owned, depending on that day's share prices. At the time of conversion, the total value of your "old" shares will equal the total value of your "new" shares. However, subsequent share price fluctuations may decrease or increase the total value of your "new" shares as compared to that of your "old" shares." B shares I have owned in the past have had an automatic conversion to A shares after a certain period of time. Again, the prospectus has indicated that it was tax free. By the way, I am a CPA, active.



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Old 01-08-2005, 10:20 PM
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Steve Dell wrote:
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Technically, from the tax standpoint, it is a sale and a purchase.


Looking at it as a sale & purchase would make it a wash sale, with no
gain or loss involved.
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Old 01-08-2005, 10:26 PM
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Sparky wrote:
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Steve Dell wrote:
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Technically, from the tax standpoint, it is a sale and a purchase.
Looking at it as a sale & purchase would make it a wash sale, with no gain or loss involved.


"Wash Sale"

Wash Sale Rule

If you sell shares at a loss and purchase shares in the same fund within
30 days before or after the sale, the IRS considers the purchase to have
"washed" all or a portion of your loss. The IRS designed this rule to
discourage investors from selling securities solely for the purpose of
generating a tax loss.

In the case of a wash sale, two important adjustments must be made. All
or a portion of the loss must be deferred and added back to the basis,
and the holding period of the purchased shares must be changed to
account for the deferral. Note that your cost basis statement already
reflects the adjusted cost basis and allowable loss. You need not make
any further adjustments.

The tax and legal information provided is a summary of our understanding
and interpretation of the current income tax regulations and is not
exhaustive. Investors should consult their tax advisor or legal counsel
for advice and information concerning their particular situation.
Neither Strong Investments nor any of its representatives may give legal
or tax advice.

Strong 1-800-359-3379
©2005 Strong Financial Corporation • All rights reserved. Important
legal information • Prospectuses • Wells Fargo Funds Management, LLC is
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