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Old 07-12-2006, 03:05 PM
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Hi

Anyone recommend an easy-to-use alternative to Microsoft Visio for
drawing
basic flow diagrams?

Visio is too damned complex & rather counter-intuitive (not to mention
horrendously expensive!)

I have Xara Xtreme (which I love), which *could* do the job of course
but I need something
that has shapes that "know" that they have been joined together (with
an arrow etc.).

Basically I need something faster to develop flow diagrams with
which allows things to be moved around, without losing their
connections!

I cant afford much money for this (max say c. GBP25.00 ??)

With thanks


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Old 07-12-2006, 03:16 PM
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Hi Anyone recommend an easy-to-use alternative to Microsoft Visio for drawing basic flow diagrams? Visio is too damned complex & rather counter-intuitive (not to mention horrendously expensive!) I have Xara Xtreme (which I love), which *could* do the job of course but I need something that has shapes that "know" that they have been joined together (with an arrow etc.). Basically I need something faster to develop flow diagrams with which allows things to be moved around, without losing their connections! I cant afford much money for this (max say c. GBP25.00 ??) With thanks Ship Shiperton Henethe



SmartDraw ?
http://www.smartdraw.com/exp/ste/home/
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Old 07-12-2006, 04:09 PM
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ship wrote:
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Hi Anyone recommend an easy-to-use alternative to Microsoft Visio for drawing basic flow diagrams? Visio is too damned complex & rather counter-intuitive (not to mention horrendously expensive!) I have Xara Xtreme (which I love), which *could* do the job of course but I need something that has shapes that "know" that they have been joined together (with an arrow etc.). Basically I need something faster to develop flow diagrams with which allows things to be moved around, without losing their connections! I cant afford much money for this (max say c. GBP25.00 ??) With thanks Ship Shiperton Henethe


You could try using pstricks' "nodes" - see pst-node on CTAN.
But admittedly they're not "easy" although I've found it satisfying.
I've begun using it for my block diagrams.

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Old 07-12-2006, 04:24 PM
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ship wrote:
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Hi Anyone recommend an easy-to-use alternative to Microsoft Visio for drawing basic flow diagrams? Visio is too damned complex & rather counter-intuitive (not to mention horrendously expensive!) I have Xara Xtreme (which I love), which *could* do the job of course but I need something that has shapes that "know" that they have been joined together (with an arrow etc.). Basically I need something faster to develop flow diagrams with which allows things to be moved around, without losing their connections! I cant afford much money for this (max say c. GBP25.00 ??)


There is Dia <http://www.gnome.org/projects/dia/>, directly
inspired by Visio. There is Inkscape <http://www.inkscape.org/>,
which may be able to do flow charts. There is Kivio
<http://www.koffice.org/kivio/>. There are others.

All of them at an unbeatable price, I may add.

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Old 07-12-2006, 06:41 PM
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In article <1152745554.088228.176560@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups. com>,
"ship" <shiphen@gmail.com> wrote:
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Hi Anyone recommend an easy-to-use alternative to Microsoft Visio for drawing basic flow diagrams? Visio is too damned complex & rather counter-intuitive (not to mention horrendously expensive!) I have Xara Xtreme (which I love), which *could* do the job of course but I need something that has shapes that "know" that they have been joined together (with an arrow etc.). Basically I need something faster to develop flow diagrams with which allows things to be moved around, without losing their connections! I cant afford much money for this (max say c. GBP25.00 ??)


I think Omni Graffle is just terrific, and older versions are still
available for free on Omni's site. It is, however, only for OS X.

http://www.omnigroup.com/applications/omnigraffle/

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Old 07-12-2006, 10:26 PM
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On 12 Jul 2006 16:05:54 -0700 in comp.software.international, "ship"
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HiAnyone recommend an easy-to-use alternative to Microsoft Visio fordrawingbasic flow diagrams?Visio is too damned complex & rather counter-intuitive (not to mentionhorrendously expensive!)I have Xara Xtreme (which I love), which *could* do the job of coursebut I need somethingthat has shapes that "know" that they have been joined together (withan arrow etc.).Basically I need something faster to develop flow diagrams withwhich allows things to be moved around, without losing theirconnections!I cant afford much money for this (max say c. GBP25.00 ??)


GNU groff comes with pic preprocessor for drawing diagrams.

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Old 07-13-2006, 05:53 PM
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In article <1152745554.088228.176560@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups. com>,
shiphen@gmail.com says...
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Hi Anyone recommend an easy-to-use alternative to Microsoft Visio for drawing basic flow diagrams?

I just use OpenOffice.org Draw for them. Quick, easy, works.
Oh yeah - free.
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With thanks

no worries
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Old 07-14-2006, 04:22 AM
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ship wrote:
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Hi Anyone recommend an easy-to-use alternative to Microsoft Visio for drawing basic flow diagrams? Visio is too damned complex & rather counter-intuitive (not to mention horrendously expensive!) I have Xara Xtreme (which I love), which *could* do the job of course but I need something that has shapes that "know" that they have been joined together (with an arrow etc.). Basically I need something faster to develop flow diagrams with which allows things to be moved around, without losing their connections! I cant afford much money for this (max say c. GBP25.00 ??) With thanks Ship Shiperton Henethe

Its not the tool without complexity, but if you like to work quick, then
visual paradigm is very handy because of the mouse gestures. However,
it's not that cheap.
http://www.visual-paradigm.com/

I too like poseidon for uml which is also very handy to draw qick diagrams:
http://gentleware.com/index.php

Regards,
Jörg Simon
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Old 08-07-2006, 07:00 PM
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> Basically I need something faster to develop flow diagrams with
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which allows things to be moved around, without losing their connections!


EventStudio 2.5 might work for you. You can enter the flows as a text
based
sequence diagram description and then generate the diagrams.

http://www.eventhelix.com/EventStudio/

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Old 08-08-2006, 09:03 AM
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Default Recommend an alternative to ms Visio for flow diagram creation ?

It's not cheap, but my favorite used to be AllClear

http://www.allclearonline.com

They have a simplified structure language and you could just actually type
in your process as text and it would automatically draw the flow chart for
you. So, instead of drawing boxes, and lines, etc you're describing your
process and it's drawing it for you.

It's very cool.

If you do a lot of flow charts, it could easily pay for itself.


On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 16:05:54 -0700, ship wrote:
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Hi Anyone recommend an easy-to-use alternative to Microsoft Visio for drawing basic flow diagrams? Visio is too damned complex & rather counter-intuitive (not to mention horrendously expensive!) I have Xara Xtreme (which I love), which *could* do the job of course but I need something that has shapes that "know" that they have been joined together (with an arrow etc.). Basically I need something faster to develop flow diagrams with which allows things to be moved around, without losing their connections! I cant afford much money for this (max say c. GBP25.00 ??) With thanks Ship Shiperton Henethe


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