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Old 09-15-2006, 11:08 AM
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Hello

I'm trying to open an older Illustrator file, into Windows CS2. the
old file was built with probably Illustrator 7 or 9. It has a link to
a huge TIF file, over 450mb in size. Its a gigantic trade show
display.

the file would open in Illustrator 9 or 10, but in CS2 I get a "not
enough memory to link to file" error message and the file closes
before fully opening.

Anybody ever seen this? Also, i went to preferences, in Photoshop
theres a place to allocate more RAM to the program, but I cannot find
it in Illustrator. Does anyone know how to do this?

thanks



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Old 09-15-2006, 12:21 PM
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RC Moonpie wrote:
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Hello I'm trying to open an older Illustrator file, into Windows CS2. the old file was built with probably Illustrator 7 or 9. It has a link to a huge TIF file, over 450mb in size. Its a gigantic trade show display. the file would open in Illustrator 9 or 10, but in CS2 I get a "not enough memory to link to file" error message and the file closes before fully opening. Anybody ever seen this? Also, i went to preferences, in Photoshop theres a place to allocate more RAM to the program, but I cannot find it in Illustrator. Does anyone know how to do this? thanks


Us Mac users have no problem with that anymore. It seems OS X does that
for ya. Not sure though......

Anyhow, 450Mb is really huge. If you can open it in Photoshop why not
make it smaller?

Or maybe it has something to do with being an old Photoshop file, maybe
try open it up and saving in PS CS2?

Just guessing here.
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Old 09-15-2006, 12:31 PM
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On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 22:21:37 +0200, steggy <steggy2001@hotmail.com>
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Us Mac users have no problem with that anymore. It seems OS X does thatfor ya. Not sure though......Anyhow, 450Mb is really huge. If you can open it in Photoshop why notmake it smaller?



It has to a be a CMYK tif at 100 dpi, 128 inches wide, 90 inches tall.
Crank one up in photoshop and see how big the file size is. If theres
a trick I'm missing, I'd love to know what it is.


Quote:
Or maybe it has something to do with being an old Photoshop file, maybetry open it up and saving in PS CS2?


I tried that.... didnt matter. Really scratching my head over this
one. I even tried to make a new photoshop file, same dimensions and
resolution, nope, illustrator wouldnt touch it.




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Old 09-15-2006, 12:50 PM
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RC Moonpie wrote:
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On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 22:21:37 +0200, steggy <steggy2001@hotmail.com> wrote:
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Us Mac users have no problem with that anymore. It seems OS X does thatfor ya. Not sure though......Anyhow, 450Mb is really huge. If you can open it in Photoshop why notmake it smaller?
It has to a be a CMYK tif at 100 dpi, 128 inches wide, 90 inches tall. Crank one up in photoshop and see how big the file size is. If theres a trick I'm missing, I'd love to know what it is.



OK. I have the distinct feeling you are trying to make a billboard for
the local Casino, right?

))


Anyhow if that's the case.........what size (in inches) is the original
450 Mb monster? That is important info.

The reason I ask is this: if you design the poster (in Illustrator or
Indesign) in the size 42,6 x 30 inches you will end up with a file you
can handle. So try and reduce the file (in inches) in Photoshop by a
third, assuming it is 300DPI now.

The posterman will make something nice at the desired size.

Not sure if this answers your question. If the original file is 100 DPI,
128 x 90 inches.........I do not see a trick, besides buying a new
computer. Does Indesign give you the same problems?
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Old 09-15-2006, 12:56 PM
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RC Moonpie wrote:
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On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 22:21:37 +0200, steggy <steggy2001@hotmail.com> wrote:
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Us Mac users have no problem with that anymore. It seems OS X does thatfor ya. Not sure though......Anyhow, 450Mb is really huge. If you can open it in Photoshop why notmake it smaller?
It has to a be a CMYK tif at 100 dpi, 128 inches wide, 90 inches tall. Crank one up in photoshop and see how big the file size is. If theres a trick I'm missing, I'd love to know what it is.
Quote:
Or maybe it has something to do with being an old Photoshop file, maybetry open it up and saving in PS CS2?
I tried that.... didnt matter. Really scratching my head over this one. I even tried to make a new photoshop file, same dimensions and resolution, nope, illustrator wouldnt touch it.



MMMMM an idea.........try PDF-ing it, out of Photoshop. With right
settings you will not lose anything, but Illustrator and PDF are married.

While typing..have a look at your Preferences, try setting "Files and
Clipboard" differently, change from PDF-setting to AICB setting. Or the
other way around.
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Old 09-15-2006, 01:08 PM
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On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 22:50:30 +0200, steggy <steggy2001@hotmail.com>
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OK. I have the distinct feeling you are trying to make a billboard forthe local Casino, right?

haha! I wish.
Quote:
Anyhow if that's the case.........what size (in inches) is the original450 Mb monster? That is important info.


128 inches wide, 90 inches tall


Quote:
The reason I ask is this: if you design the poster (in Illustrator orIndesign) in the size 42,6 x 30 inches you will end up with a file youcan handle. So try and reduce the file (in inches) in Photoshop by athird, assuming it is 300DPI now.


It isnt. The print vendor told me the tif had to be 100dpi at full
size. and he knew it would be gigantic. I suppose I could try to build
an Illustraotr file at 50% and then change the TIF to 200dpi but cut
the dimensions in half. I'll try that and see if it works.

Quote:
The posterman will make something nice at the desired size.Not sure if this answers your question. If the original file is 100 DPI,128 x 90 inches.........I do not see a trick, besides buying a newcomputer. Does Indesign give you the same problems?



no. this is weird. i can place the file in InDesign and open it in
photoshop but its blowing Illustrators mind. Something must be whacked
with my Illustrator. I'm going to try it on my other machine, thanks
for the idea.




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Old 09-15-2006, 02:07 PM
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RC Moonpie wrote:
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On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 22:50:30 +0200, steggy <steggy2001@hotmail.com> wrote:
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OK. I have the distinct feeling you are trying to make a billboard forthe local Casino, right?
haha! I wish.
Quote:
Anyhow if that's the case.........what size (in inches) is the original450 Mb monster? That is important info.
128 inches wide, 90 inches tall
Quote:
The reason I ask is this: if you design the poster (in Illustrator orIndesign) in the size 42,6 x 30 inches you will end up with a file youcan handle. So try and reduce the file (in inches) in Photoshop by athird, assuming it is 300DPI now.
It isnt. The print vendor told me the tif had to be 100dpi at full size. and he knew it would be gigantic. I suppose I could try to build an Illustraotr file at 50% and then change the TIF to 200dpi but cut the dimensions in half. I'll try that and see if it works.


OK. Gotya.
And the print vendor is right, 100 is kind of an absolute minimum for
posters. I guess you could try to trash your Illustrator Preferences,
but I would not know if that helps.
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Old 09-15-2006, 02:39 PM
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RC Moonpie wrote:
Quote:
On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 22:21:37 +0200, steggy <steggy2001@hotmail.com> wrote:
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Us Mac users have no problem with that anymore. It seems OS X does thatfor ya. Not sure though......Anyhow, 450Mb is really huge. If you can open it in Photoshop why notmake it smaller?
It has to a be a CMYK tif at 100 dpi, 128 inches wide, 90 inches tall. Crank one up in photoshop and see how big the file size is. If theres a trick I'm missing, I'd love to know what it is.
Quote:
Or maybe it has something to do with being an old Photoshop file, maybetry open it up and saving in PS CS2?
I tried that.... didnt matter. Really scratching my head over this one. I even tried to make a new photoshop file, same dimensions and resolution, nope, illustrator wouldnt touch it.

Why don't you try converting it to RGB in Photoshop, saving it (or
re-saving it, rather), then opening it up in Illustrator and converting
it back into CMYK? RGB will make it smaller, and you shouldn't lose your
CMYK info (or even if there are slight color alterations, hopefully it
shouldn't be too severe).
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Fungusized wrote:
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RC Moonpie wrote:
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On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 22:21:37 +0200, steggy <steggy2001@hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
Us Mac users have no problem with that anymore. It seems OS X does that for ya. Not sure though...... Anyhow, 450Mb is really huge. If you can open it in Photoshop why not make it smaller?
It has to a be a CMYK tif at 100 dpi, 128 inches wide, 90 inches tall. Crank one up in photoshop and see how big the file size is. If theres a trick I'm missing, I'd love to know what it is.
Quote:
Or maybe it has something to do with being an old Photoshop file, maybe try open it up and saving in PS CS2?
I tried that.... didnt matter. Really scratching my head over this one. I even tried to make a new photoshop file, same dimensions and resolution, nope, illustrator wouldnt touch it.
Why don't you try converting it to RGB in Photoshop, saving it (or re-saving it, rather), then opening it up in Illustrator and converting it back into CMYK? RGB will make it smaller, and you shouldn't lose your CMYK info (or even if there are slight color alterations, hopefully it shouldn't be too severe).


Ow and by the way......LZW compression in Photoshop is on?
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Old 09-16-2006, 08:02 AM
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On 9/15/06 2:08 PM, RC Moonpie commented:
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Hello I'm trying to open an older Illustrator file, into Windows CS2. the old file was built with probably Illustrator 7 or 9. It has a link to a huge TIF file, over 450mb in size. Its a gigantic trade show display. the file would open in Illustrator 9 or 10, but in CS2 I get a "not enough memory to link to file" error message and the file closes before fully opening. Anybody ever seen this? Also, i went to preferences, in Photoshop theres a place to allocate more RAM to the program, but I cannot find it in Illustrator. Does anyone know how to do this? thanks



I haven't read all the replies thoroughly, but my question is:
is the original TIF file compressed?

I don't know if there are any known issues with importing compressed TIFF
files in AI CS2, so in PS do a Save As to make a new file and save it with
LZW or ZIP compression (not sure which would be smallest and most
compatible) checked ON and make sure Image Pyramid and Transparency (unless
you need the transprency) are UNchecked. See if that makes the file size
smaller and more manageable.

Do you have plenty of scratch disk space? I can't remember a thing about
allocating memory in Windows, so I can't help there.

inez

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