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Old 09-25-2006, 12:37 AM
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I have purchased a network drive for use as a backup.

I have a small network, one RiscPC; one windows PC and a socket to
plug a laptop in. Printer etc.

The networked drive is visible to the windows machines, and I assumed
that LanMan98 would allow my RiscPC to connect. However LanMan98
seems to object it returns the error - Non Specific Error- when it
attempts to connect.

The Lan Hard drive calls itself "storage-0002" and appears as such on
the windows machine however after experimenting it appears that
LanMan98 objects to the word 'storage' as part of the server name.

Oregano 1 does not seem to connect via the web interface, though a
'ping' works ok.

Anyone managed to make one of these boxes work with a Risc PC? any
thoughts on what I am doing wrong.

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Old 09-25-2006, 01:24 AM
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In article <2cc5cf6b4e.bz36@orpheusnet.co.uk>, Adrian Crafer
<URL:mailto:acrafer@orpheusmail.co.uk> wrote:
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I have purchased a network drive for use as a backup. I have a small network, one RiscPC; one windows PC and a socket to plug a laptop in. Printer etc. The networked drive is visible to the windows machines, and I assumed that LanMan98 would allow my RiscPC to connect. However LanMan98 seems to object it returns the error - Non Specific Error- when it attempts to connect. The Lan Hard drive calls itself "storage-0002" and appears as such on the windows machine however after experimenting it appears that LanMan98 objects to the word 'storage' as part of the server name. Oregano 1 does not seem to connect via the web interface, though a 'ping' works ok. Anyone managed to make one of these boxes work with a Risc PC? any thoughts on what I am doing wrong.


I can't see a make and model above so we can only guess!

Did you have to install any software on the Windows computers?
If no, it is most likely compatible.
If yes, possibly compatibel but probably not having said that the operative
word is HAVE in did you have to install..

Of the 5? NAS/SAN devices I've investigated only one is platform agnostic.

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Old 09-25-2006, 04:09 AM
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In message <ant2509340b0pErr@client.cjemicros.co.uk>
Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> wrote:
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In article <2cc5cf6b4e.bz36@orpheusnet.co.uk>, Adrian Crafer <URL:mailto:acrafer@orpheusmail.co.uk> wrote:
Quote:
I have purchased a network drive for use as a backup. I have a small network, one RiscPC; one windows PC and a socket to plug a laptop in. Printer etc. The networked drive is visible to the windows machines, and I assumed that LanMan98 would allow my RiscPC to connect. However LanMan98 seems to object it returns the error - Non Specific Error- when it attempts to connect. The Lan Hard drive calls itself "storage-0002" and appears as such on the windows machine however after experimenting it appears that LanMan98 objects to the word 'storage' as part of the server name. Oregano 1 does not seem to connect via the web interface, though a 'ping' works ok. Anyone managed to make one of these boxes work with a Risc PC? any thoughts on what I am doing wrong.
I can't see a make and model above so we can only guess! Did you have to install any software on the Windows computers? If no, it is most likely compatible. If yes, possibly compatibel but probably not having said that the operative word is HAVE in did you have to install.. Of the 5? NAS/SAN devices I've investigated only one is platform agnostic. Chris Evans

There was no software to install, not even a manual on a cd, just a
little 24 page booklet
The product consists of a Lan compatible box into which I put a
standard seagate drive in it, which was apparently formatted FAT32 by
the box. It all just worked when I plugged it in to the network as
viewed from the PC at least when I clicked on the right bit of local
network it did.

The brand of the box appears to be Mobile Landisc it is marketed by
Maplin as product A61FY, it claims to be ME/2000/XP/MAC OSX/Linux
compatible.

The fact that it required nothing special suggested to me that should
work somehow. The alternative I looked at was a Lyksys Network Storage
Link, but since from the manual that unit wanted to reformat the drive
to a non standard format, it worked with a standard USB type boxes, I
went off that one.

Part of the problem as I see is that LanMan98 objects to the word
'storage' in the server name, which I could change via the PC. I
obviously do not want change the name until I am reasonably sure thats
the way to go. The Host name actually is Storage-XXXX where XXXX are
the MAC Address.

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Old 09-25-2006, 06:47 AM
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In message <e625e36b4e.bz36@orpheusnet.co.uk>
Adrian Crafer <acrafer@orpheusmail.co.uk> wrote:
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In message <ant2509340b0pErr@client.cjemicros.co.uk> Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> wrote:
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In article <2cc5cf6b4e.bz36@orpheusnet.co.uk>, Adrian Crafer <URL:mailto:acrafer@orpheusmail.co.uk> wrote:


[snip]
Quote:
The networked drive is visible to the windows machines, and I assumed that LanMan98 would allow my RiscPC to connect. However LanMan98 seems to object it returns the error - Non Specific Error- when it attempts to connect.


I get the same "non-specific error" too from my NAS box. It is called
"LANDrive" and the cardboard box claims it's by "Mediasonic"
www.mediasonic.ca but the 12 page manual gives www.usbex.com/landrive
neither of which give much info. nor up to date firmware.
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The Lan Hard drive calls itself "storage-0002" and appears as such on the windows machine however after experimenting it appears that LanMan98 objects to the word 'storage' as part of the server name.


Mine is called "storage" although one can refer to it as "storage-xxxx"
where, as you state below, xxxx is the last 4 digits of the MAC address
(although this doesn't seem to work for me so I just use "storage" in
FireFox under XP).
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Oregano 1 does not seem to connect via the web interface, though a 'ping' works ok.


I have had a similar experience. Ping works but O1 does not, FireFox under
RO does allow me into the config page. I have just downloaded and installed
the nescessarry bits to make NetSurf test build 19th of Sep 06 work and have
just been able to log into the NAS drive config. utill. LANMan98 will still
return the non-specific error. Have you tried the FTP side of the drive
(I'm assuming it's the same basic unit as mine)? FTP access did work for me
from RO but one can't play MP3's via FTP!
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Anyone managed to make one of these boxes work with a Risc PC? any thoughts on what I am doing wrong. I can't see a make and model above so we can only guess!


The same basic device appears to have several makes and superficial models
but the actual basic model No. which seems to be printed on most of them
(but not all) is HD9-U2LA. A very helpfull chap on c.s.a.networking was
helping me with this problem a few months ago, using Etherial on the Doze
box to snoop on the network to try and get an idea of what was going on.
Unfortionately this did not yeild any results and like you am still trying
to get my NAS working under XP.

Mine has NAS-BASIC44, LOADER 067, 2006-6-14 firmware.

[snip]
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Part of the problem as I see is that LanMan98 objects to the word 'storage' in the server name, which I could change via the PC. I


Why do you say this? I'd be interested to know why that would cause a
problem and how you descovered this. Do you have any info. as to what RO
happy name to rename it to to get round this? I'll try a few on mine in the
mean time to see if I strike it lucky.

[snip]

Hopefully we can get this solved between all of use. I like NAS, I think
it's the way to go if only it'd work under RO (and work all the time under
XP although I think this is caused by emule, don't think my drive likes it's
network traffic and keeps on dropping off the network requireing a
powercycle to get it to appear.

Some on a very usefull Australian forum about these drives have suggested
using a static IP for it and others suggest they're best getting that via
DHCP. I've tried both (my Smoothwall box provedes the DHCP server) and
doesn't seem to make any odds except it's easier to try things out on it
when it's got a static IP otherwise it's IP'd possibly change every power
cycle which was anything between instant and half an hr. between
dissappearing.


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Old 09-25-2006, 10:40 AM
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Adrian Crafer wrote:
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There was no software to install, not even a manual on a cd, just a little 24 page booklet The product consists of a Lan compatible box into which I put a standard seagate drive in it, which was apparently formatted FAT32 by the box. It all just worked when I plugged it in to the network as viewed from the PC at least when I clicked on the right bit of local network it did. The brand of the box appears to be Mobile Landisc it is marketed by Maplin as product A61FY, it claims to be ME/2000/XP/MAC OSX/Linux compatible.


That'd be the one I bought recently. Haven't had much success, but
suspect my hard drive's faulty as I get errors when trying to access it
(even trying to format doesn't work).
Quote:
The fact that it required nothing special suggested to me that should work somehow. The alternative I looked at was a Lyksys Network Storage Link, but since from the manual that unit wanted to reformat the drive to a non standard format, it worked with a standard USB type boxes, I went off that one.
Part of the problem as I see is that LanMan98 objects to the word 'storage' in the server name, which I could change via the PC. I obviously do not want change the name until I am reasonably sure thats the way to go. The Host name actually is Storage-XXXX where XXXX are the MAC Address. Adrian Crafer


Have you tried updating the firmware? There's a link on the A61FY page
where you can download newer firmware. I managed to install it on mine
with Netsurf.

If you do a search with Google for NAS-BASIC44, you should find an
Australian forum website which has a lot more information.

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Old 09-26-2006, 01:47 PM
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In message <4nqm47FbkjakU1@individual.net>
Mark Fraser <mfraser@ukgateway.net> wrote:
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Adrian Crafer wrote:


[snip]
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Have you tried updating the firmware? There's a link on the A61FY page where you can download newer firmware. I managed to install it on mine with Netsurf.


Which version was this? Did it allow you access with LANMan98?
Quote:
If you do a search with Google for NAS-BASIC44, you should find an Australian forum website which has a lot more information.


I've tried that one on my NAS but it didn't allow access from RO with LM98,
has any one else had more luck with this than me? If so I'd love to know
what you did to get it working, it's annoying me not being able to access
from RO.

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Old 09-27-2006, 04:37 AM
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In message <33e89b6c4e.Michael@armpowered.co.uk>
Michael Hambley <mike@armpowered.co.uk> wrote:
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In message <4nqm47FbkjakU1@individual.net> Mark Fraser <mfraser@ukgateway.net> wrote:
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Adrian Crafer wrote:
[snip]
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Have you tried updating the firmware? There's a link on the A61FY page where you can download newer firmware. I managed to install it on mine with Netsurf.
Which version was this? Did it allow you access with LANMan98?

New version of Software from maplins is version is NAT-Basic45 as
supplied was 41
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If you do a search with Google for NAS-BASIC44, you should find an Australian forum website which has a lot more information. I've tried that one on my NAS but it didn't allow access from RO with LM98, has any one else had more luck with this than me? If so I'd love to know what you did to get it working, it's annoying me not being able to access from RO. Cheers, Mike....

I spoke to Paul Gardiner of Warm Silence and he was very helpful, but
as they are not developing LanMan98 anymore due to lack of customers,
there was a limit to how much he could help. The no-specific error
reported by LanMan98 is it turns out an error returned by the storage
box, hence the LanMan98 was actually talking to the box, but the box
did not like what was being said, and unfortunately was not returning
a detailed error message in order to give us a clue as to what is
wrong.

More experimenting obviously required.

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Old 09-27-2006, 05:26 AM
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In message <c157ed6c4e.bz36@orpheusnet.co.uk>
Adrian Crafer <acrafer@orpheusmail.co.uk> wrote:
Quote:
In message <33e89b6c4e.Michael@armpowered.co.uk> Michael Hambley <mike@armpowered.co.uk> wrote:
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In message <4nqm47FbkjakU1@individual.net> Mark Fraser <mfraser@ukgateway.net> wrote:
Quote:
Adrian Crafer wrote:
[snip]
Quote:
Have you tried updating the firmware? There's a link on the A61FY page where you can download newer firmware. I managed to install it on mine with Netsurf.
Which version was this? Did it allow you access with LANMan98?
New version of Software from maplins is version is NAT-Basic45 as supplied was 41


Right, I got 38 or something like that with mine but bought it a few months
ago. It's now running Basic44, which Loader are you running?

And to follow up what I said before about NetSurf being able to access it,
well it allowed me to log in and showed the main page which is why I posted
that before but afterwards I tried to do stuff with it which it wouldn't
allow. It simply didn't respond to clicking any of the "change" buttons. I
was able to visit all of it's pages (although it only showed the default
"Public" share but not any of my other shares on it in the SMB
configureation screen.
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If you do a search with Google for NAS-BASIC44, you should find an Australian forum website which has a lot more information. I've tried that one on my NAS but it didn't allow access from RO with LM98, has any one else had more luck with this than me? If so I'd love to know what you did to get it working, it's annoying me not being able to access from RO. I spoke to Paul Gardiner of Warm Silence and he was very helpful, but


Yes, I had a problem some time ago and had a chat with him, very helpfull
and we got my problem solved between us in no time.
Quote:
as they are not developing LanMan98 anymore due to lack of customers,


Doh! That's a shame, it's an excellent product.
Quote:
there was a limit to how much he could help. The no-specific error reported by LanMan98 is it turns out an error returned by the storage box, hence the LanMan98 was actually talking to the box, but the box did not like what was being said, and unfortunately was not returning a detailed error message in order to give us a clue as to what is wrong.


Yes, Mike Sandells was helping me with this issue before on csa.networking
and after looking at my Etherial logs came to the same conclusion that it
was the NAS box returning the "non-specific error".
Quote:
More experimenting obviously required.


Looks like it :-(

Either that or is there any one here who understands firmware? Fancy
writing us some new, RO friendly, firmware for these boxes? ;-)

Cheers, Mike....


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Old 09-27-2006, 10:48 AM
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In message <e625e36b4e.bz36@orpheusnet.co.uk>
on 25 Sep 2006 Adrian Crafer wrote:
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The alternative I looked at was a Lyksys Network Storage Link, but since from the manual that unit wanted to reformat the drive to a non standard format, it worked with a standard USB type boxes, I went off that one.


The Linksys unit does actually use a standard format, though the manual
doesn't admit it. It uses ext3, which is the standard format on Linux.

Admittedly Windows doesn't support it out of the box, which is probably why
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On 27 Sep 2006 Michael Hambley <mike@armpowered.co.uk> wrote:
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In message <c157ed6c4e.bz36@orpheusnet.co.uk> Adrian Crafer <acrafer@orpheusmail.co.uk> wrote:
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I spoke to Paul Gardiner of Warm Silence and he was very helpful, but
Yes, I had a problem some time ago and had a chat with him, very helpfull and we got my problem solved between us in no time.
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as they are not developing LanMan98 anymore due to lack of customers,
Doh! That's a shame, it's an excellent product.


Well there is no point in good software sitting around rotting. We need to
negotiate the rights and get it to someone who can update it, or put it out
to open source.

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