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Old 09-25-2006, 08:24 AM
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I've got a multi flash card reader which I'm trying to get working with
Unipod. Unfortunately, Unipod doesn't even put up a 'not recognised'
window with Vendor and Product IDs.

*USBdevices similarly shows nothing.

If I plug the reader into my PC, I get the following from System
Information. Is there any way I can deduce the vendor and product IDs from
this?

Generic USB CF Reader USB Device
USBSTOR\DISK&VEN_GENERIC&PROD_USB_CF_READER&REV_1.01\058F312D81B&1
Generic USB MS Reader USB Device
USBSTOR\DISK&VEN_GENERIC&PROD_USB_MS_READER&REV_1.03\058F312D81B&3
Generic USB SD Reader USB Device
USBSTOR\DISK&VEN_GENERIC&PROD_USB_SD_READER&REV_1.00\058F312D81B&0
Generic USB SM Reader USB Device
USBSTOR\DISK&VEN_GENERIC&PROD_USB_SM_READER&REV_1.02\058F312D81B&2
Generic volume STORAGE\REMOVABLEMEDIA\7&33317DA3&0&RM
Generic volume STORAGE\REMOVABLEMEDIA\7&2C889678&0&RM
Generic volume STORAGE\REMOVABLEMEDIA\7&2C40C824&0&RM
Generic volume STORAGE\REMOVABLEMEDIA\7&26EBCA8A&0&RM

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Old 09-25-2006, 10:38 AM
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In message <gemini.j65pl0001qn4w02pg.ray@magray.freeserve.co.u k>
Ray Dawson <ray@magray.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
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I've got a multi flash card reader which I'm trying to get working withUnipod. Unfortunately, Unipod doesn't even put up a 'not recognised'window with Vendor and Product IDs.


Have you tried double clicking on MassFS? found in !Boot !Resoruces

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Old 09-25-2006, 11:23 AM
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In article <gemini.j65pl0001qn4w02pg.ray@magray.freeserve.co.u k>, Ray Dawson
<URL:mailto:ray@magray.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
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I've got a multi flash card reader which I'm trying to get working with Unipod. Unfortunately, Unipod doesn't even put up a 'not recognised' window with Vendor and Product IDs. *USBdevices similarly shows nothing. If I plug the reader into my PC, I get the following from System Information. Is there any way I can deduce the vendor and product IDs from this?


You'll have to delve into the registry for these, at least, that worked for me.
Try searching for pid and vid.
Alternatively check out http://www.linux-usb.org/usb.ids
if you have a name associated to the device.

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Old 09-26-2006, 01:33 AM
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On 25 Sep 2006, Ray Dawson <ray@magray.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
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I've got a multi flash card reader which I'm trying to get working with Unipod. Unfortunately, Unipod doesn't even put up a 'not recognised' window with Vendor and Product IDs. *USBdevices similarly shows nothing.


Try Choices > USB
'Enable USB Core at startup' <tick>
'Enable popups for unknown devices' <tick>

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Old 09-26-2006, 02:49 AM
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In article <50b4586c4e.old_coaster@old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk>,
Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
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On 25 Sep 2006, Ray Dawson <ray@magray.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
I've got a multi flash card reader which I'm trying to get working with Unipod. Unfortunately, Unipod doesn't even put up a 'not recognised' window with Vendor and Product IDs. *USBdevices similarly shows nothing.
Try Choices > USB 'Enable USB Core at startup' <tick> 'Enable popups for unknown devices' <tick>
Tony


Eh! My ...!Boot.Choices.Users.Single.USB.Choices doesn't have any of those
lines.

Where do they hang out on your machine?

Dave S

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Old 09-26-2006, 07:34 AM
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On 26 Sep 2006, Dave Symes <dfs@ukgateway.net> wrote:
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In article <50b4586c4e.old_coaster@old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk>, Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
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On 25 Sep 2006, Ray Dawson <ray@magray.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: I've got a multi flash card reader which I'm trying to get working with Unipod. Unfortunately, Unipod doesn't even put up a 'not recognised' window with Vendor and Product IDs. *USBdevices similarly shows nothing. Try Choices > USB 'Enable USB Core at startup' <tick> 'Enable popups for unknown devices' <tick> Tony
Eh! My ...!Boot.Choices.Users.Single.USB.Choices doesn't have any of those lines. Where do they hang out on your machine?


Sorry, too terse. I meant:

click menu on the Task Manager
click Choices, to open the 'Configuration' window
click USB, to open the 'USB Configuration' window
click Core to open the 'USB Core Configuration' window
tick 'Enable USB Core at startup'
tick 'Enable popups for unknown devices'

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Old 09-26-2006, 09:07 AM
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On 26 Sep 2006, Dave Symes <dfs@ukgateway.net> wrote:
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In article <50b4586c4e.old_coaster@old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk>, Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Quote:
On 25 Sep 2006, Ray Dawson <ray@magray.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: I've got a multi flash card reader which I'm trying to get working with Unipod. Unfortunately, Unipod doesn't even put up a 'not recognised' window with Vendor and Product IDs. *USBdevices similarly shows nothing. Try Choices > USB 'Enable USB Core at startup' <tick> 'Enable popups for unknown devices' <tick> Tony
Eh! My ...!Boot.Choices.Users.Single.USB.Choices doesn't have any of those lines.


I tried to look at !Boot.Choices.Users.Single.USB.Choices, out of
curiousity, but find that it doesn't exist, not even the USB directory!

This is puzzling because

*show usb$choicesdir
USB$ChoicesDir : ADFS::ide.$.!BOOT.Choices.Users.Single.USB

Unipod is working perfectly, under RO4.39, and will accept changes of
configuraton, via the machine Configuration window. The question is,
where are these options being saved? I've looked at all the files in

!Boot.Resources.!MassFS
!Boot.Resources.!USB
!Boot.Resources.Configure.!USBSetup

but can find nothing relevant. Is it possible that the options are saved
to Unipod flash memory? If so, then why define USB$ChoicesDir?

Tony
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Old 09-26-2006, 09:09 AM
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In article <e4c4796c4e.old_coaster@old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk>,
Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
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On 26 Sep 2006, Dave Symes <dfs@ukgateway.net> wrote:
In article <50b4586c4e.old_coaster@old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk>, Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Quote:
On 25 Sep 2006, Ray Dawson <ray@magray.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: > I've got a multi flash card reader which I'm trying to get working > with Unipod. Unfortunately, Unipod doesn't even put up a 'not > recognised' window with Vendor and Product IDs. > > *USBdevices similarly shows nothing. Try Choices > USB 'Enable USB Core at startup' <tick> 'Enable popups for unknown devices' <tick> Tony
Eh! My ...!Boot.Choices.Users.Single.USB.Choices doesn't have any of those lines. Where do they hang out on your machine?
Sorry, too terse. I meant:
click menu on the Task Manager click Choices, to open the 'Configuration' window click USB, to open the 'USB Configuration' window click Core to open the 'USB Core Configuration' window tick 'Enable USB Core at startup' tick 'Enable popups for unknown devices'
Tony


Thanks, I thought you meant somewhere else, mine is already set up that
way.

Cheers
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Old 09-26-2006, 11:22 AM
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In article <5d3b826c4e.old_coaster@old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk>,
Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

[Snip]
Quote:
I tried to look at !Boot.Choices.Users.Single.USB.Choices, out of curiousity, but find that it doesn't exist, not even the USB directory!
This is puzzling because
*show usb$choicesdir USB$ChoicesDir : ADFS::ide.$.!BOOT.Choices.Users.Single.USB
Unipod is working perfectly, under RO4.39, and will accept changes of configuraton, via the machine Configuration window. The question is, where are these options being saved?


They are saved as the Obey file
!BOOT.Choices.Users.Single.Boot.PreDesk.SetUpUSB
Quote:
I've looked at all the files in
!Boot.Resources.!MassFS !Boot.Resources.!USB !Boot.Resources.Configure.!USBSetup
but can find nothing relevant. Is it possible that the options are saved to Unipod flash memory? If so, then why define USB$ChoicesDir?


My !BOOT.Choices.Users.Single.USB does contain a Choices file, but I've no
idea what it means. I have lines like, for example:

4310,4352,"USB 2.0(FS) FLASH DISK ","C",1
4310,4352,"USB 2.0(FS) FLASH DISK ","I0",0

and

2096,97,"PVG0M7F5V6H1","C",1
2096,97,"PVG0M7F5V6H1","I0",0

2096,221,"PVG0M7F5V6H1","C",1
2096,221,"PVG0M7F5V6H1","I0",0

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Old 09-26-2006, 01:32 PM
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On 26 Sep 2006, "Mark Fraser (News)" <mfraser@ukgateway.net> wrote:
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In article <5d3b826c4e.old_coaster@old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk>, Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: [Snip]
Quote:
I tried to look at !Boot.Choices.Users.Single.USB.Choices, out of curiousity, but find that it doesn't exist, not even the USB directory! This is puzzling because *show usb$choicesdir USB$ChoicesDir : ADFS::ide.$.!BOOT.Choices.Users.Single.USB Unipod is working perfectly, under RO4.39, and will accept changes of configuraton, via the machine Configuration window. The question is, where are these options being saved?
They are saved as the Obey file !BOOT.Choices.Users.Single.Boot.PreDesk.SetUpUSB


Of course! My short term memory seems to have disappeared completely!
[csa.apps, Re: Unipod and USB mouse, 3 Sep 2006] In justification, I say
that I was confused by USB purporting to write to Choices:

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My !BOOT.Choices.Users.Single.USB does contain a Choices file


Could this be a relic of an earlier version of !USB? It doesn't have a
RunImage, but files in my copy of USB contain the following id lines:

| $Id: !Boot,feb,v 1.5 2003/11/21 18:20:10 ben Exp $
| $Id: !Run,feb,v 1.32 2004/04/14 18:03:42 gareth Exp $
| $Id: !SetupEnv,feb,v 1.2 2002/10/29 21:58:49 ben Exp $

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