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Old 10-04-2006, 12:21 AM
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Hello All, can someone recomend a good webcam with night vision option? Now,
i'm not thinking about some security cams etc.. i would just like a plain
web cam that cam display well in dark.. if there is one

Thx!

p.s. price is no issue


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Old 10-04-2006, 06:00 AM
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Jim Morrison wrote:
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Hello All, can someone recomend a good webcam with night vision option? Now, i'm not thinking about some security cams etc.. i would just like a plain web cam that cam display well in dark.. if there is one Thx! p.s. price is no issue

A 'plain webcam that can display well in dark'...do you want it to
'display well in dark' or do you want 'night vision'?...Two different
things. Logitech cams with 'Low light Option' do a reasonable job in low
light levels, but in total darkness (where 'night vision' would be
needed), then forget them.
Two things you have to remember:
1) In the absence of light, you will need to illuminate the area for the
camera to be able see something. If you want it to see in total darkness
then this will need IR. (Forget the green images we see on TV from Iraq
or other war zones...those cameras use light intensifier technology to
'see' in the dark...the man made equivalent of how cats eyes work.)
The camera will also have to be responsive to very low light levels, (.1
to (ideally) 0 Lux).
2) 'Plain webcams' were/are not designed for this purpose (to 'see' in
the dark).
While it can be done with a 'plain webcam' (providing it's image sensor
is suitable), you would have to provide it with external (IR)
illumination. I was experimenting with this a couple of years ago, and
built 3 IR LED banks, each consisting of 30 IR LEDs to provide the
illumination but, quite franky, it is not worth the effort.
In my opinion, a security camera with inbuilt IR capability, or a high
end IP camera (with IR capability) is the best option.
Currently I use a security camera (cheaper & less effort!) with 20
inbuilt IR LEDs.
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Old 10-05-2006, 12:23 AM
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In news:4523be95$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au,
kim <relique_50@yahoo.com.au> dribbled from a puss filled blister enraged
mouth:
Quote:
Jim Morrison wrote:
Quote:
Hello All, can someone recomend a good webcam with night vision option? Now, i'm not thinking about some security cams etc.. i would just like a plain web cam that cam display well in dark.. if there is one Thx! p.s. price is no issue
A 'plain webcam that can display well in dark'...do you want it to 'display well in dark' or do you want 'night vision'?...Two different things. Logitech cams with 'Low light Option' do a reasonable job in low light levels, but in total darkness (where 'night vision' would be needed), then forget them. Two things you have to remember: 1) In the absence of light, you will need to illuminate the area for the camera to be able see something. If you want it to see in total darkness then this will need IR. (Forget the green images we see on TV from Iraq or other war zones...those cameras use light intensifier technology to 'see' in the dark...the man made equivalent of how cats eyes work.) The camera will also have to be responsive to very low light levels, (.1 to (ideally) 0 Lux). 2) 'Plain webcams' were/are not designed for this purpose (to 'see' in the dark). While it can be done with a 'plain webcam' (providing it's image sensor is suitable), you would have to provide it with external (IR) illumination. I was experimenting with this a couple of years ago, and built 3 IR LED banks, each consisting of 30 IR LEDs to provide the illumination but, quite franky, it is not worth the effort. In my opinion, a security camera with inbuilt IR capability, or a high end IP camera (with IR capability) is the best option. Currently I use a security camera (cheaper & less effort!) with 20 inbuilt IR LEDs.


i have to agree..... use a tv capture card with a cheap ebay ir done cam
(£25) a much better option then trying to find a normal webcam with
nightvision.....

http://82.27.65.180:8080/ top left is cheap ebay done camera with ir
leds..... please note no other light source is being used and no street
lights are nearby so the camera makes all the light it needs!!!

trying to find/buy a nightvision webcam would be a hard jib , ive seen em
and had one but it was crap...

regards slayer


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Old 10-05-2006, 02:33 AM
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"the_slay_er" <d.phelan4@REMOVEntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:Yh3Vg.2971$aZ3.267@newsfe2-win.ntli.net...
Quote:
In news:4523be95$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au, kim <relique_50@yahoo.com.au> dribbled from a puss filled blister enraged mouth:
Quote:
Jim Morrison wrote:
Quote:
Hello All, can someone recomend a good webcam with night vision option? Now, i'm not thinking about some security cams etc.. i would just like a plain web cam that cam display well in dark.. if there is one Thx! p.s. price is no issue
A 'plain webcam that can display well in dark'...do you want it to 'display well in dark' or do you want 'night vision'?...Two different things. Logitech cams with 'Low light Option' do a reasonable job in low light levels, but in total darkness (where 'night vision' would be needed), then forget them. Two things you have to remember: 1) In the absence of light, you will need to illuminate the area for the camera to be able see something. If you want it to see in total darkness then this will need IR. (Forget the green images we see on TV from Iraq or other war zones...those cameras use light intensifier technology to 'see' in the dark...the man made equivalent of how cats eyes work.) The camera will also have to be responsive to very low light levels, (.1 to (ideally) 0 Lux). 2) 'Plain webcams' were/are not designed for this purpose (to 'see' in the dark). While it can be done with a 'plain webcam' (providing it's image sensor is suitable), you would have to provide it with external (IR) illumination. I was experimenting with this a couple of years ago, and built 3 IR LED banks, each consisting of 30 IR LEDs to provide the illumination but, quite franky, it is not worth the effort. In my opinion, a security camera with inbuilt IR capability, or a high end IP camera (with IR capability) is the best option. Currently I use a security camera (cheaper & less effort!) with 20 inbuilt IR LEDs.
i have to agree..... use a tv capture card with a cheap ebay ir done cam (£25) a much better option then trying to find a normal webcam with nightvision..... http://82.27.65.180:8080/ top left is cheap ebay done camera with ir leds..... please note no other light source is being used and no street lights are nearby so the camera makes all the light it needs!!! trying to find/buy a nightvision webcam would be a hard jib , ive seen em and had one but it was crap... regards slayer


Thank you both guys, you got me convinced! Rgds!


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