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Old 10-09-2006, 12:11 PM
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Is there any problem with just copying the file structure
(VIDEO_TS>.VOB, .IFO, .BUP) onto the CD-R or CD-RW any reproduce it
with the standalone DivX player?
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Old 10-09-2006, 12:37 PM
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"Chupo" <bad_n_mad@yahoo.com> schreef in bericht
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Is there any problem with just copying the file structure (VIDEO_TS>.VOB, .IFO, .BUP) onto the CD-R or CD-RW any reproduce it with the standalone DivX player?



It's just as possible as making water burn. Why not give it a try?



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Old 10-09-2006, 12:46 PM
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In article <452ab326$0$4522$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>, Linea Recta
<mccm.vos@abc.invalid> says...
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It's just as possible as making water burn. Why not give it a try?


I did :-) DivX player said: 'no supported file found'. But PowerDVD
recognizes such CD as normal DVD and plays it OK, so I am wondering
what is the problem with the standalone player?
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Old 10-09-2006, 01:24 PM
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On Mon, 9 Oct 2006 22:11:45 +0200, Chupo <bad_n_mad@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Is there any problem with just copying the file structure(VIDEO_TS>.VOB, .IFO, .BUP) onto the CD-R or CD-RW any reproduce itwith the standalone DivX player?


You are essentially making what is called a "mini DVD". This is simply
DVD data structure on CD media.

I can see two problems:

- Not all players are capable of playing mini DVD.

- The files on a DVD must be ordered and placed in a particular
fashion. I expect a mini-DVD to be the same. To make sure you get this
right, use the CD recording software to create a mini DVD, and then
put your VOB, IFO and BUP files into the compilation. I use Nero,
which supports mini DVD directly. If you recording software does not
support mini DVD, you might create a non-standard mini DVD, which will
play on even fewer players.

Software players, such as PowerDVD, will play just about any VOB/IFO
file, as long as it is on a media which the computer can read. You
could put the files on a memory card and still play them perfectly.
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Old 10-09-2006, 02:36 PM
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Well, other than the fact that a CD is not a DVD no matter what file
structure or format you have on the CD. The player is looking at the disc as
well as what's on it. Software has the ability to ignore the disc itself,
but a DVD player (connected to the TV) doesn't.

R


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Old 10-09-2006, 03:17 PM
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In article <1veli21rdkfrr35s51q07p8g18envg09i2@4ax.com>, Robert Roland
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On Mon, 9 Oct 2006 22:11:45 +0200, Chupo <bad_n_mad@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Is there any problem with just copying the file structure(VIDEO_TS>.VOB, .IFO, .BUP) onto the CD-R or CD-RW any reproduce itwith the standalone DivX player?
You are essentially making what is called a "mini DVD". This is simply DVD data structure on CD media.


Exactly that was my question.
Quote:
I can see two problems: - Not all players are capable of playing mini DVD.


If player can play normal movie DVDs, DivX&Xvid, what would be the
reason not to play DVD data on CD media?? File System? CD has CDFS, but
DivX player can read CDFS, so where is the problem? Maybe I should
force 'ISO 9660 only'? But I don think so, Player reads even ISO
9660:1999 not to mention Joliet.
Quote:
- The files on a DVD must be ordered and placed in a particular fashion.


I've made the files with Adobe Premiere>Export to DVD>Folder. So the
structure is exact as it would be on any video DVD. Maybe disk label
should be something apetial?
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I expect a mini-DVD to be the same. To make sure you get this right, use the CD recording software to create a mini DVD, and then put your VOB, IFO and BUP files into the compilation. I use Nero, which supports mini DVD directly.


I have just tried to make mini-DVD with Nero 6.6.0.8 but 'No supported
media found' error again :-( Maybe player expects to find root menu or
something in order to play as video DVD?
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Old 10-09-2006, 03:19 PM
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In article <MPG.1f94f6a17902944d989b74@news.t-com.hr>, Chupo
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Maybe disk label should be something apetial?


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Old 10-09-2006, 03:28 PM
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In article <452aced6$0$34550$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>, Hebee Jeebes
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Well, other than the fact that a CD is not a DVD no matter what file structure or format you have on the CD. The player is looking at the disc as well as what's on it. Software has the ability to ignore the disc itself, but a DVD player (connected to the TV) doesn't.


Yes, but this is DVD/DivX/Xvid/MPEG/CD... player. It should be more
adaptive (at least, I've thought so). I mean, it sure can read the data
and the data is present on the media. It in fact *is* software player,
it can now play Xvid although couldn't before firmware update.

Do you think *the only* reason why it refuses to play is because it
expects DVD *media*?
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Old 10-09-2006, 07:07 PM
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"Chupo" <bad_n_mad@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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In article <452aced6$0$34550$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>, Hebee Jeebes <nospam@nospam.com> says...
Quote:
Well, other than the fact that a CD is not a DVD no matter what file structure or format you have on the CD. The player is looking at the disc as well as what's on it. Software has the ability to ignore the disc itself, but a DVD player (connected to the TV) doesn't.
Yes, but this is DVD/DivX/Xvid/MPEG/CD... player. It should be more adaptive (at least, I've thought so). I mean, it sure can read the data and the data is present on the media. It in fact *is* software player, it can now play Xvid although couldn't before firmware update. Do you think *the only* reason why it refuses to play is because it expects DVD *media*? -- Chupo



An ISO CD can accept VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS folders
and function just like a DVD, in many standalone DVD players.
( being able to play other formats has nothing to do with it)

I have a number of old "Mini-DVD"s made with TMPGEnc DVD
Author (TDA). But I find that any more than 90min. of DVD
compliant video is too compressed for a 700meg media.

Luck;
Ken


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Old 10-10-2006, 04:53 AM
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"Chupo" <bad_n_mad@yahoo.com> schreef in bericht
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In article <452ab326$0$4522$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>, Linea Recta <mccm.vos@abc.invalid> says...
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It's just as possible as making water burn. Why not give it a try?
I did :-) DivX player said: 'no supported file found'. But PowerDVD recognizes such CD as normal DVD and plays it OK, so I am wondering what is the problem with the standalone player?



That you don't have PowerDVD on it, I suppose :-)


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